After Watching Ward How Can Anyone Say He Should Be Above Wlad P4P

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  • Die Antwoord
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    After Watching Ward How Can Anyone Say He Should Be Above Wlad P4P

    Everything that people dislike about Wlad...the jab, the grabbing, the "boring" fights Ward does but 10x worse. Everything that Wlad does that even the haters admit is impressive, the knock outs, the top 10 wins, the longevity...Ward doesnt have. They both have the amateur pedigree, but Wlad has more impressive wins, has been more dominant in his fights, has fought more top 10's in his division. Oh, and everyone talks about Wlad's unwillingness to leave Germany...Wlad's fought outside of Germany 5 times since his last loss...Ward fights in a 5 mile radius.

    Ward is literally everything people dislike about Wlad...minus everything that people like about Wlad.
  • Medved
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    #2
    But but but but, Wlad is white.

    If Wlad and Vitali were black americans the Yankees would be like OMG THEY ARE #1 ATG!

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    • The Hammer
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      #3
      Originally posted by Medved
      But but but but, Wlad is white.

      If Wlad and Vitali were black americans the Yankees would be like OMG THEY ARE #1 ATG!
      Yes. They'd be media darlings, on the cover of nearly every American magazine.

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      • The Surgeon
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        Wlad imho is a decent fighter, great power, good jab and not bad speed but to me he cant be a p4p guy because im of the opinion he only wins most of his fights due to his size advantages, if say David Haye was 6'7 with a frame like Wlad there would be no debate who would win, Haye would be an over whelming favourite

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        • FerdinandMarcos
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          #5
          Originally posted by Freedom.
          Yes. They'd be media darlings, on the cover of nearly every American magazine.
          Vlad and Vitali are SUPERSTARS in Europe and Russia..

          Why isn't that enough for you???????????????

          Hmmmmm...

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          • vacon04
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            #6
            I completely agree with your post. I like Wlad, I think he's a good HW taht actually has fought with all the boxers that have challenged him. He's not extremely talented, but has a very educated jab, he hits hard as hell, and he knows how to take advantage of his qualities.

            Wlad wins most of his fights because his fight advantage? Man they are boxers, they should take advantage of their strenghts. A fighter who sucks in the close distance will try to get more distance from his opponent. A fighter who is small, with good punching power will try to close the distant to the opponent and hit him with good body shots.

            For me the difference between Wlad and Ward is first that Wlad has a lot of punching power, he's able to KO opponents. The other difference, is that for me Ward is a dirtier fighter fighter, he goes forward with his head and his while they are hugging.

            Ward has more technical talent than Wlad, but he doesn't use is as he could.

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            • SplitSecond
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              #7
              wlad shouldn't be in the p4p, he'd get owned p4p

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              • ChopperRead
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                #8
                Originally posted by The Surgeon
                Wlad imho is a decent fighter, great power, good jab and not bad speed but to me he cant be a p4p guy because im of the opinion he only wins most of his fights due to his size advantages, if say David Haye was 6'7 with a frame like Wlad there would be no debate who would win, Haye would be an over whelming favourite
                Only wins because of size --so that must explain the great success of Michael Grant, Tye Fields, Lance Whitaker, Jameel McCline, Ray Austin, etc etc.

                I'm sorry, but that is just plain wrong.

                Size only matters if you have the superior talent to make it work for you.

                Size without great talent means you are just an extra large tomato can.

                The Klitschkos have the pedigree and are superior boxers, period.
                Last edited by ChopperRead; 05-15-2011, 02:45 PM.

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                • Canelo Phresh
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Blah!
                  wlad shouldn't be in the p4p, he'd get owned p4p
                  ding ding ding we have a winner. this easily^^^^^

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                  • ChopperRead
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by FerdinandMarcos
                    Vlad and Vitali are SUPERSTARS in Europe and Russia..

                    Why isn't that enough for you???????????????

                    Hmmmmm...
                    Doesn't negate the point that they would be massive in the US and any perceived flaws they have overlooked if they were two American boys from Cleveland.

                    Anyone remotely objective knows this is the truth.

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