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  • WESS
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    #71
    Originally posted by bluetuazon
    because floyd never intended to make weight against jmm...
    So you say.

    He paid to come in over the agreed upon weight. No harm as JMM knew what to expect as where Pac has just come in overweight and was busted for the wrong size gloves some time ago....

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    • bluetuazon
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      #72
      Originally posted by WESS
      So you say.

      He paid to come in over the agreed upon weight. No harm as JMM knew what to expect as where Pac has just come in overweight and was busted for the wrong size gloves some time ago....
      talking about getting all the advantages in a boxers favor right??? the double standard....oh well...

      do u have the link of pac coming overweight in any of his recent fights??? where?? when??

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        #73
        Originally posted by bluetuazon
        talking about getting all the advantages in a boxers favor right??? the double standard....oh well...

        do u have the link of pac coming overweight in any of his recent fights??? where?? when??
        We know Mayweather wants an advantage where do you think Pac gets it from. Also the times Pac cheated where I believe the same fights he was KO'ed in. At least one that I know of. It has been years but it still happened. Mayweathers never come in overweight. What he did with the JMM was wrong but Pacs now wanting to fight JMM at WW which has proven to be bytch move. Like I said, Pac learned from Mayweather.

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        • Clyde Barrow
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          #74
          I'm actually a bit wirried about JMM in this one. Marquez gets points in the courage department, and he's not just doing this for money as he clearly is obsessed with beating Pac once and for all. But sometimes you have to be careful what you wish for. This reminds me of Cintron talking about his rematch with Margarito a couple years ago.

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            #75
            Originally posted by bluetuazon
            talking about getting all the advantages in a boxers favor right??? the double standard....oh well...

            do u have the link of pac coming overweight in any of his recent fights??? where?? when??
            September 19, 1999

            Pacquiao continued his quest, winning 15 more glorious fights.

            But he faced defeated against Thailand’s Medgoen Singsurat on September 19, 1999. It was again a three-round knockout. Singsurat got Pacquiao on the ropes and landed a flush straight right to the body coiling Pacquiao over and keeping him there.

            Technically, Pacquiao lost the WBC Flyweight World Title because he was overweight.

            Read more: http://sportales.com/boxing/when-pac...#ixzz1MFELYJvr


            This is just the first one that popped up..... As you can see Manny came and overweight and paid the price after the fact. Floyd never came in overweight but paid to change contract. If anyone should be pointing fingers about weight, its Mayweather as Pac has come in overweight. Floyd has not nor has he lost a title because of weight. Just sayin.

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              #76
              Originally posted by WESS
              We know Mayweather wants an advantage where do you think Pac gets it from. Also the times Pac cheated where I believe the same fights he was KO'ed in. At least one that I know of. It has been years but it still happened. Mayweathers never come in overweight. What he did with the JMM was wrong but Pacs now wanting to fight JMM at WW which has proven to be bytch move. Like I said, Pac learned from Mayweather.
              fair enough.....most of the cash cows wants the advantages all the time...but hey can u blame them?? i guess not...beggars cant be choosers right??

              pac vs jmm is within WW....jmm weight in 145 against katsidis...should we blame katsidis for fighting a lightweight??

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                #77
                Originally posted by WESS
                September 19, 1999

                Pacquiao continued his quest, winning 15 more glorious fights.

                But he faced defeated against Thailand’s Medgoen Singsurat on September 19, 1999. It was again a three-round knockout. Singsurat got Pacquiao on the ropes and landed a flush straight right to the body coiling Pacquiao over and keeping him there.

                Technically, Pacquiao lost the WBC Flyweight World Title because he was overweight.

                Read more: http://sportales.com/boxing/when-pac...#ixzz1MFELYJvr


                This is just the first one that popped up..... As you can see Manny came and overweight and paid the price after the fact. Floyd never came in overweight but paid to change contract. If anyone should be pointing fingers about weight, its Mayweather as Pac has come in overweight. Floyd has not nor has he lost a title because of weight. Just sayin.
                its the only one that popped up because its the only one...and because pac was drained for that fight....but yeah he came in overweight 12 years ago...when pacquiao was a nobody....but hey the fact is he was overweight...so props to you....

                did he came in overweight in any of his recent fight?? just asking...

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by WESS
                  September 19, 1999

                  Pacquiao continued his quest, winning 15 more glorious fights.

                  But he faced defeated against Thailand’s Medgoen Singsurat on September 19, 1999. It was again a three-round knockout. Singsurat got Pacquiao on the ropes and landed a flush straight right to the body coiling Pacquiao over and keeping him there.

                  Technically, Pacquiao lost the WBC Flyweight World Title because he was overweight.

                  Read more: http://sportales.com/boxing/when-pac...#ixzz1MFELYJvr


                  This is just the first one that popped up..... As you can see Manny came and overweight and paid the price after the fact. Floyd never came in overweight but paid to change contract. If anyone should be pointing fingers about weight, its Mayweather as Pac has come in overweight. Floyd has not nor has he lost a title because of weight. Just sayin.
                  as usual, you should look at the context of the situation.

                  Pac came in overweight not because he wanted to, but BECAUSE HE COULD NOT. Why do you think he lost? He lost cuz he was killing himself to reach the weight limit.

                  Pac only came in overweight twice, AND HE LOST BOTH TIMES.

                  Rustico Torrecampo in February 1996 and Medgoen Singsurat in September 1999.

                  that tells you one of two things:

                  either Pac is a TERRIBLE CHEATER, or Pac simply didn't manage his weight well then and came at the fight overweight and drained.

                  and another thing. look at the dates of those losses. that was more than TEN YEARS AGO. Pac was an immature champion then. Obviously, he learned his lesson and watched his weight since then since he NEVER came overweight since that time on.

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                  • mr_kamado10
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by DrewWoodside
                    According to the odds and public expectations, by definition yes it will be an upset if JMM wins. Try Again.
                    it won't be an upset since Marquez thinks he beat Pacman twice by a landslide...Pacman only won 2 of the 24 round they fought.....

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Vegan101
                      I won't endorse this fight, its a mismatch. I hope the boxing commission won't let this fight go through.
                      It's not a ****ing mismatch. It's not a style Problem, it's just that Marquez is 5 YEARS OLDER than Pac.

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