we all know JMM could handle pacmans speed but I just wanna see if his gameplan changes after he gets hit with a pacquiao welterweight power shot...thats the reason I'd rather wait and see the replay on HBO, I dont wanna waste my money again!!!
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Originally posted by FabsDaMan View Postwe all know JMM could handle pacmans speed but I just wanna see if his gameplan changes after he gets hit with a pacquiao welterweight power shot...thats the reason I'd rather wait and see the replay on HBO, I dont wanna waste my money again!!!
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Originally posted by thegreenmachine View PostAnybody that thinks the weight is unfair for this fight is a fool. Last time they fought pac weighed 145 pounds on fight night. This time hell weigh about 147 -148 , not a massive difference. All it means is there will be no major weight cut and dehydrating going on. Also pac is the welterweight champion why would he vacate and fight again at the lower weight only to dehydrate himself and then rehydrate to a similar weight that he always fights at? At first i always thought it should be at 140 but once i looked at the on fight night weights i realised the weigh in weight doesnt mean much as pac doesnt rehydrate to over 155 and higher like a normal welterweight , he fights on the night at a similar weight to the on night fight weight back when he weighed in at 135. Marquez wont be getting up off the canvas this time though.
What a totally absurd thing to say.
FACT: The amount of muscle-mass and conditioning that you can take into a fight is solely determined at the official weigh-in, rehydration weight is totally irrelevant, and can even be detrimental.
That fight will be a lightweight facing a welterweight, 140 would be much fairer..... So, FAIL !!
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Originally posted by Deevel916 View PostWhat I do like about this fight is the $10mil incentive JMM has to fight his heart out for the rematch.
There should also be knockout bonuses and fight of the night/year candidate as well.
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Check this out if you have any issues with the weight.
If you think this fight is at an unfair weight, go to this site and learn what you are talking about. Also if you think Manny has gained massive weight and therefore must be on steriods this page should also educate you to the realities. (Add the http part yaself it wont let me post a link)
://forum.philboxing.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=179499[/url]
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Originally posted by ThePrince View PostYeah, Boxing needs more performance based incentives. Marquez will literally be fighting for the chance of getting $15 million GUARANTEED. No more guarantees for losing like Alexander got, takes away fighters' hunger and makes them complacent and less willing to take risks/make good fights if they know they're getting bank either way.
There should also be knockout bonuses and fight of the night/year candidate as well.
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Originally Posted by thegreenmachine
Anybody that thinks the weight is unfair for this fight is a fool. Last time they fought pac weighed 145 pounds on fight night. This time hell weigh about 147 -148 , not a massive difference. All it means is there will be no major weight cut and dehydrating going on. Also pac is the welterweight champion why would he vacate and fight again at the lower weight only to dehydrate himself and then rehydrate to a similar weight that he always fights at? At first i always thought it should be at 140 but once i looked at the on fight night weights i realised the weigh in weight doesnt mean much as pac doesnt rehydrate to over 155 and higher like a normal welterweight , he fights on the night at a similar weight to the on night fight weight back when he weighed in at 135. Marquez wont be getting up off the canvas this time though.
" Weigh in Weight dont mean a thing "
What a totally absurd thing to say.
FACT: The amount of muscle-mass and conditioning that you can take into a fight is solely determined at the official weigh-in, rehydration weight is totally irrelevant, and can even be detrimental.
That fight will be a lightweight facing a welterweight, 140 would be much fairer..... So, FAIL !!
and for once marques wont have to dehydrate himself either, so his power should be at a maximum . He is facing a man his same size at a similar weight to what he is naturally. The only differnece is neither of them will have to dehydrate. It is as even as you can get. If Marquez can only handle the power of dehydrated then rehydrated people at up 145 weight then he could easily have stayed at lightweight. The only weigh a fight up here at 144 would be unfair is if pac could then rehydrate to way higher but how you cant see that them both fighting at a naturall weight without either of them having to cut is fair i dont understand. You say it is a lightweight v a welterweight?? manny may fight at welterweight but he aint as ture welterweight, a true welterweight is over 155 easy on fight night. Its really a lightweight v lightweight fought at welterweight , eleviating the cut. Even Marquez thinks its fair due to the fact pac wont stack on the pounds after the weight in like mayweather did. You fail *******. Also you obivously a forum geek if you say fail. Say somethin as gay as fail to anybody at the boxing event tonight when in a discussion about boxing and youd lose all ya teeth. ****ing nerd.
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Originally posted by thegreenmachine View Post
If you think this fight is at an unfair weight, go to this site and learn what you are talking about. Also if you think Manny has gained massive weight and therefore must be on steriods this page should also educate you to the realities. (Add the http part yaself it wont let me post a link)
://forum.philboxing.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=179499[/url]
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