Paul Williams Camp Turn Down Fight with Pawel Wolak

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  • warp1432
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    #91
    Originally posted by Mr. Fantastic
    What people other than Dan Rafael?
    Michael Marley, Bernard Fernandez, and others. I want to say Steve Kim but Im not sure

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      #92
      Originally posted by warp1432
      And people had Berto beating Ortiz. Still doesn't make it right. Margarito got slapped around for the first six rounds and then Williams pulled out round 12. Clear Williams victory.
      I had P-Will winning 115-113. However, you can have a different scorecard watching it from ringside and watching it from home. Maybe for this fight that doesn't apply to you cuz' maybe you were on ringside(I know you're in the business) but nobody saying is right. However, more people(who are more credible than Rafael IMO) had Marg winning or a draw from ringside than they had Ortiz-Berto winning from ringside. And, dare I say Williams-Margarito was a much closer fight than Ortiz-Berto?

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        #93
        Originally posted by warp1432
        Michael Marley, Bernard Fernandez, and others. I want to say Steve Kim but Im not sure
        No Steve Kim had Ortiz winning.

        Michael Marley is whack and you more than anybody knows that as well. I don't consider him credible.

        Bernard Fernandez however I do consider solid writer. So that one surprises me.

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          #94
          I still don't know how Kim is hating on P-Will with what he said.

          And, nobody is saying that P-Will doesn't deserve a tune-up. Of course he deserves a gimme fight. But, does he deserve it on HBO? Especially when you consider that Martinez can't get an HBO date in the summer.

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          • Mr. Fantastic
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            #95
            Originally posted by warp1432
            Michael Marley, Bernard Fernandez, and others. I want to say Steve Kim but Im not sure
            Who's Bernard Fernandez?

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            • bojangles1987
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              #96
              Originally posted by warp1432
              And people had Berto beating Ortiz. Still doesn't make it right. Margarito got slapped around for the first six rounds and then Williams pulled out round 12. Clear Williams victory.
              It's not crazy to think Margarito at least pulled out a draw in that fight.

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                #97
                Originally posted by Mr. Fantastic
                Who's Bernard Fernandez?
                He works/worked for a Philly newspaper

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by bojangles1987
                  It's not crazy to think Margarito at least pulled out a draw in that fight.
                  It's not crazy but it would be a reach.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by jrosales13
                    I still don't know how Kim is hating on P-Will with what he said.

                    And, nobody is saying that P-Will doesn't deserve a tune-up. Of course he deserves a gimme fight. But, does he deserve it on HBO? Especially when you consider that Martinez can't get an HBO date in the summer.
                    thats all fine and dandy but lets not act like p will hasnt come thru for hbo before. he has consistently fought quality opponents. more so or just as much than any fighter in the last 5 yrs. and besides, the refusal of wolak does not mean he wont be fighting a quality opponent. im more interested to kno wha weight he'll fight at.

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                    • Walt Liquor
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by Mr. Fantastic
                      Who's Bernard Fernandez?
                      Ulz. There's a few articles on guys who had berto winning. Some scored ituch differently when rewatching the fight.

                      Lots of people had Vic d beating mares which is much more credible than margs beating pwill.

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