SERGIO MARTINEZ: Too Big for PACQUIAO?

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  • Larry the boss
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    #51
    Originally posted by iNDOLiFER
    of course pacman can make 154 to fight sergio right?? and pacman can also make 135 to fight marquez to right?? LOL!!!!
    ???????????did he not win the 154 wbc title to claim he s an division titlist???isnt that the same belt sergio was stripped of???isnt 154 whrer sergio wnts to meet?

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      #52
      I mean If Manny continues to dominate people from 140-147 and beats Floyd, I don't see why not.

      It's going to get to the point that Manny may have to take a fight like that to have a an opponent that is somewhat competitive.

      People say Bradley, but Manny will and is going to blow that kid out the water. I also see him beating Floyd, so I just can't see anything else out there for Manny when he gets past Mayweather.

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        #53
        And if Martinez was smart he would keep fighting between 154-160 because thats where the money is at for him.

        People say Bute, but while it would be a great bout for Martinez, Bute has nothing to gain because a Pascal fight would **** on a Martinez bout from a finacial perspective as well as doing more for Bute's legacy. Not only that bout, but a Bernard Hopkins, Mikkel Kessler and even a Carl Froch fight does more for Bute than Martinez, so I just don't see that bout happening (Martinez vs Bute). Same with Ward as he can get more money fighting Bute, Hopkins, Dawson and others.

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          #54
          Originally posted by LarryX2011
          ???????????did he not win the 154 wbc title to claim he s an division titlist???isnt that the same belt sergio was stripped of???isnt 154 whrer sergio wnts to meet?
          Larry bro, what I meant by that is people cry and say PAC can go up to 154 to fight Sergio then the same people cry and say PAC can still go down to 135 to fight marquez.. U see the pattern here.. When it's sergio then PAC is not that small he can go up and fight Sergio then when it's Marquez, all of a sudden PAC is not that big he can still make 135..LOL.. *****s are funny..

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            #55
            Originally posted by iNDOLiFER
            Larry bro, what I meant by that is people cry and say PAC can go up to 154 to fight Sergio then the same people cry and say PAC can still go down to 135 to fight marquez.. U see the pattern here.. When it's sergio then PAC is not that small he can go up and fight Sergio then when it's Marquez, all of a sudden PAC is not that big he can still make 135..LOL.. *****s are funny..
            manny-jmm3 will be at 144 catchweight.....i also see people claim mannys some giant when it comes to jmm and say jmm has to come to ww..cool..but when sergios mentioned all the sudden hes a natural 140 fighter..bull**** both have held to wbc belt at 154 and sergio can move down 1 and manny can move up 1..no excuses..its a easy solution

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              #56
              Originally posted by LarryX2011
              ???????????did he not win the 154 wbc title to claim he s an division titlist???isnt that the same belt sergio was stripped of???isnt 154 whrer sergio wnts to meet?
              The difference is he was given the 154 belt for fighting an ex WW
              If you ignore the belt, and see it from their point of view... its a 145 pound guy facing a champion at middleweight
              Stacked in favour of Martinez, risky and won't happen.

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                #57
                Originally posted by TRAV1$
                The difference is he was given the 154 belt for fighting an ex WW
                If you ignore the belt though, and see it from their point of view... its a 145 pound guy facing a champion at middleweight
                Stacked in favour of Martinez, risky and won't happen.
                sergio to is an ex ww..and you cant ignore the belt its part of mannys "legacy" people shouldnt make excuses for him not fighting a man who held the same belt he had..matter fact was stripped of the belt so manny could fight for it..if hes gonna be glorified for winning a title at 154 he cant be to damn small when a skilled fighter wants to fight him there..its bull****

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by LarryX2011
                  sergio to is an ex ww..and you cant ignore the belt its part of mannys "legacy" people shouldnt make excuses for him not fighting a man who held the same belt he had..matter fact was stripped of the belt so manny could fight for it..if hes gonna be glorified for winning a title at 154 he cant be to damn small when a skilled fighter wants to fight him there..its bull****
                  Well Martinez can sign for 147 then?
                  He has atleast made the weight before... Pac hasn't made 147, let alone 154
                  He didn't have to fight Margarito at a higher weight, his camp have said many times before he's a 147 fighter... so anyone who wants to face him needs to make that weight
                  The WBC gave him the belt for a bullshit fight, when he clearly had no intention of staying there.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by -Top Rank-
                    I mean If Manny continues to dominate people from 140-147 and beats Floyd, I don't see why not.

                    It's going to get to the point that Manny may have to take a fight like that to have a an opponent that is somewhat competitive.

                    People say Bradley, but Manny will and is going to blow that kid out the water. I also see him beating Floyd, so I just can't see anything else out there for Manny when he gets past Mayweather.

                    Get your eyes checked, they are really blurry.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by LarryX2011
                      manny-jmm3 will be at 144 catchweight.....i also see people claim mannys some giant when it comes to jmm and say jmm has to come to ww..cool..but when sergios mentioned all the sudden hes a natural 140 fighter..bull**** both have held to wbc belt at 154 and sergio can move down 1 and manny can move up 1..no excuses..its a easy solution
                      People complain about the fight being at 144 even tho on fight nite they both will weight pretty much the same give or take a couple pounds. Now when PAC fought Marg at 150 PAC only came in on fight nite at 147-148? And Marg rehydrated back up to 160+.. PAC said only way the fight can happen is if Sergio comes down to 150.. I'm pretty sure Sergio will come in 160+ on fight nite also if the fight was to happen.. Now there complaining saying Marquez going up to 144 is unfair even tho like I said they both would weight the same now look a PAC and Sergio there's a 20+ difference..yet this is perfectly fine I their eyes but Marquez coming up to 144 is unfair? Lol
                      Last edited by iNDOLiFER; 05-12-2011, 08:58 AM.

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