Zab Judah is shot; Ortiz is not coming back down in weight. There's always Alexander. It's definitely not ducking though; notice Shaw says 80 of what he net's... Nets means after all deductions... So 1.3 Mil might wind up being 500k, according to how it's usually explained. 20% is a large piece of money coming out of someone's money.
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Wow you guys are slow aren't you?
It's been reported MULTIPLE TIMES the offer was increased and after ppv and gate Bradley would get at least a couple more hundred thousand, if not more. So it's closer to 1.5 - 2 million dollars, this isn't news to anyone paying attention.Last edited by SpitBalla; 05-11-2011, 09:26 AM.
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Originally posted by Lorily View PostI really don't know how some people can just skim over the facts and just go on about "ducking". Let's review:
FACT: Shaw is trying to do whatever he can to get Bradley to fight BEFORE Junes end, so he stays in the picture.
FACT: Shaw is offering to cut his percentages back (Some people read it as Bradley was making 80% over Khan, that's not what it says). Of course Shaw is willing to cut back his percentage, some is better than none. But the fact that he's putting it out through his attorney, through the media, tells you that the man has an agenda AGAINST his own fighter, who by the way IS still under contract with him at the moment. If that doesn't tell you what kind of snake Shaw is, I don't know what will. Take your dislike of a certain fighter out of it, would you want that kind of promoter for yourself?? I think not.
FACT: Shaw is NOT just going to give Bradley a freebie fight and let him go. Bradley taking the Khan fight IN JUNE surely means he has to extend his contract with Shaw. Bradley obviously doesn't want that.
FACT: If Bradley takes this fight NOW against Khan, he loses out on making another guaranteed 1+million for fighting a different opponent. He could fight Khan AFTER his next guaranteed fight and make an additional 1+million fighting Khan next. Whay would he use up his guarantee fight for a fight that would net him that much at any time? He doesn't have the same luxury Khan does of knowing each fight he will make a guaranteed 1+million. Of course Khan can walk away, he can fight the McCloskeys of the world and still make that amt., everyone knows Bradley cant. His list contains 3 specifically tough fighters or HBO wont pay.
FACT: Bradley has not said he never wants to fight Khan. Because of his predicament, it just shouldn't be right now. I don't know why Bradley did that interview telling Khan not to run, honestly I don't care. It really only tells me that he does want to fight Khan, but he realized that RIGHT NOW is NOT smart. Yes, he should have waited to open his mouth.
We all know how Team Khan loves their money. Put the shoe on the other foot and half of the people in here would be saying the same thing as Bradley. Unless you can also say that Khan was "ducking" all those guys that "priced themselves out" of fighting Khan (and there have been many) then perhaps a few people could just cut Bradley just a teensy bit of slack and look at it with honest eyes. When Khan makes business moves, he's smart. When Bradley makes business moves, hes a ducker. Come on. Ya'll can keep saying that Bradley doesn't draw, but the FACT is (as Khan said from his own mouth) THE WORLD WANTS TO SEE BRADLEY VS KHAN. He must be worth something if the whole world wants to see it, no?? In this case, it's gonna take BOTH of them to make the fight THE WHOLE WORLD WANTS TO SEE.
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The fact is, Bradley is scared and ducking. If he actually thought he would win, and not wreck his chances at bigger fights with a different promoter than he would just take this fight and earn his biggest payday. The dude doesn't think he can beat Khan.
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and that will show that Bradley is a lot smarter than people think. He played his cards very smart and didn't take the 1st offer. Ist rule of good business.
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Respectfully, The days of boxers fighting for guts and glory are lonnnnng gone so please stop with the ducking crap.
1st, HBO did in fact guarantee the winner of the Alexander-Bradley scrap a million $ (plus some change) payday/second fight with the network, (another dumb move in a series of dumb moves by HBO). That said why in the world would Bradley agree to fight Khan for that huge purse (by Bradley's standards) when he can make that money fighting any other palooka. Why take the risk? The Khan payday will be there regardless of HBO. So why blow that HBO payday on Khan? Why not make that money on a bloated Light Welter or aging welter AND THEN make some real bank vs Khan or Ortiz or Manny? So in some of your opinions he should go ahead and make the money against Khan and then if he loses go back to fughting the Kendall Holts of the world for $150K???? No sense. He should make his 1.2 Mil against someone else AND THEN make his Million PLUS vs any of the big 3.
2nd, Shaw has done an absolute HORRIBLE job promoting Bradley. Keeping him in that tiny casino in his home town which cant draw for sh_t. Agreeing to take his biggest fight against Alexander to Pontiac Michigan because the Silverdome put up cash for it. The blow back was that nobody in Michigan knew Alexander nor Bradley, Shaw's short sightedness is ridiculous. We're talking abut a promoter that couldnt put butts in the seats in Detroit for a Dirrell-Abraham Super Six fight in a time when Abraham was the favorite in a city with a large Armenian population and Dirrell was the home town draw. They got less than 6,000 tickets sold for that. C'mon fellas, you cant blame Bradley for holding out to either drop Shaw or renegotiate his contract with the track suit wearing non-jogging fat slob.
Lastly, Boxing is not immune to the rules of sports and economics. In any other sports if an overzealous team owner over pays greatly for an unproven prospect it then raises the minimum thus the money earning potential for all other athletes in that sport. When Manchester City grossly overpays a transfer fee to get there hands on a player that would otherwise end up in Man U or Chealse or Arsenal, or Barca for that matter it creates a new minimum price for a player of that claiber. So what do you think all the other players at the power houses are thinking when that happens? CHA-CHING! Im making more money soon! Thats what they are thinking. When the LA Lakers blows millions on a scrub like Andrew Bynum every other center with a pulse thinks Im as good, or proven, or better, so O need to make at least that. And you know what? They are right. So when GBP spent all those millions in wooing Khan away from Warren for an unproven Brit with a questionable chin (at that time anyway) but with loads of potential and good looks to match....do you know what every other boxer in the division who was a contender and was fighting for 100K paydays said? They all said I am worth that much of not close to that because I am either also a young contender, or a proven vet. GBP created a new minimum for what a Light Welter contender is worth.
Now dont get me wrong it was a good move for GBP. Khan wasnt getting the love he deserved from Brits (as they were in a Ricky Hatton haze at the time) and Frank Warren was ruining Khan by protecting him against cab drivers and plumbers...but I digress.
Bradley is a good fighter with good skills and nobody knows about him. That's Shaw's fault. You all want him to take the Khan payday or shut up...I get that. But this is Bradley's first A level fight on the international stage and I guarantee you he wants the money and the fight. But he sees the finish line on his contract with Shaw, has a guaranteed payday with HBO (Khan or not), and holds 2 Belts. He holds some aces in his hand, its not only Khan and GBP with the good hand. he can call some shots but his promoter is trying to get him to sign with the deal as-is????? You all dont find that to be fishy? You guys dont think that Arum with the ultimate trump card in Pacquiao isnt a greener pasture for Bradley? Or even GBP with their stable of fighters, guaranteed HBO dates, West Coast media pull, Nokia schedule, AND soon to be NYC Barclay's center guarantees a greener pasture too?
If I was Bradley I would say F' Shaw. Why take 1.2 Mil now when I already have 2 belts and when my real earning potential down the road is 10x more than 1.2 mil.
Look, I want to see Bradley v. Khan as much as the next guy, but this is the fighter's livelyhood and they their careers are very short. Bradley has blown years with Shaw and it's time to make as much as he can as he enters the next chapter of his career.
Just my 2 cents
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Originally posted by Lorily View PostI really don't know how some people can just skim over the facts and just go on about "ducking". Let's review:
FACT: Shaw is trying to do whatever he can to get Bradley to fight BEFORE Junes end, so he stays in the picture.
FACT: Shaw is offering to cut his percentages back (Some people read it as Bradley was making 80% over Khan, that's not what it says). Of course Shaw is willing to cut back his percentage, some is better than none. But the fact that he's putting it out through his attorney, through the media, tells you that the man has an agenda AGAINST his own fighter, who by the way IS still under contract with him at the moment. If that doesn't tell you what kind of snake Shaw is, I don't know what will. Take your dislike of a certain fighter out of it, would you want that kind of promoter for yourself?? I think not.
FACT: Shaw is NOT just going to give Bradley a freebie fight and let him go. Bradley taking the Khan fight IN JUNE surely means he has to extend his contract with Shaw. Bradley obviously doesn't want that.
FACT: If Bradley takes this fight NOW against Khan, he loses out on making another guaranteed 1+million for fighting a different opponent. He could fight Khan AFTER his next guaranteed fight and make an additional 1+million fighting Khan next. Whay would he use up his guarantee fight for a fight that would net him that much at any time? He doesn't have the same luxury Khan does of knowing each fight he will make a guaranteed 1+million. Of course Khan can walk away, he can fight the McCloskeys of the world and still make that amt., everyone knows Bradley cant. His list contains 3 specifically tough fighters or HBO wont pay.
FACT: Bradley has not said he never wants to fight Khan. Because of his predicament, it just shouldn't be right now. I don't know why Bradley did that interview telling Khan not to run, honestly I don't care. It really only tells me that he does want to fight Khan, but he realized that RIGHT NOW is NOT smart. Yes, he should have waited to open his mouth.
We all know how Team Khan loves their money. Put the shoe on the other foot and half of the people in here would be saying the same thing as Bradley. Unless you can also say that Khan was "ducking" all those guys that "priced themselves out" of fighting Khan (and there have been many) then perhaps a few people could just cut Bradley just a teensy bit of slack and look at it with honest eyes. When Khan makes business moves, he's smart. When Bradley makes business moves, hes a ducker. Come on. Ya'll can keep saying that Bradley doesn't draw, but the FACT is (as Khan said from his own mouth) THE WORLD WANTS TO SEE BRADLEY VS KHAN. He must be worth something if the whole world wants to see it, no?? In this case, it's gonna take BOTH of them to make the fight THE WHOLE WORLD WANTS TO SEE.
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Originally posted by Lorily View PostI really don't know how some people can just skim over the facts and just go on about "ducking". Let's review:
FACT: Shaw is trying to do whatever he can to get Bradley to fight BEFORE Junes end, so he stays in the picture.
FACT: Shaw is offering to cut his percentages back (Some people read it as Bradley was making 80% over Khan, that's not what it says). Of course Shaw is willing to cut back his percentage, some is better than none. But the fact that he's putting it out through his attorney, through the media, tells you that the man has an agenda AGAINST his own fighter, who by the way IS still under contract with him at the moment. If that doesn't tell you what kind of snake Shaw is, I don't know what will. Take your dislike of a certain fighter out of it, would you want that kind of promoter for yourself?? I think not.
FACT: Shaw is NOT just going to give Bradley a freebie fight and let him go. Bradley taking the Khan fight IN JUNE surely means he has to extend his contract with Shaw. Bradley obviously doesn't want that.
FACT: If Bradley takes this fight NOW against Khan, he loses out on making another guaranteed 1+million for fighting a different opponent. He could fight Khan AFTER his next guaranteed fight and make an additional 1+million fighting Khan next. Whay would he use up his guarantee fight for a fight that would net him that much at any time? He doesn't have the same luxury Khan does of knowing each fight he will make a guaranteed 1+million. Of course Khan can walk away, he can fight the McCloskeys of the world and still make that amt., everyone knows Bradley cant. His list contains 3 specifically tough fighters or HBO wont pay.
FACT: Bradley has not said he never wants to fight Khan. Because of his predicament, it just shouldn't be right now. I don't know why Bradley did that interview telling Khan not to run, honestly I don't care. It really only tells me that he does want to fight Khan, but he realized that RIGHT NOW is NOT smart. Yes, he should have waited to open his mouth.
We all know how Team Khan loves their money. Put the shoe on the other foot and half of the people in here would be saying the same thing as Bradley. Unless you can also say that Khan was "ducking" all those guys that "priced themselves out" of fighting Khan (and there have been many) then perhaps a few people could just cut Bradley just a teensy bit of slack and look at it with honest eyes. When Khan makes business moves, he's smart. When Bradley makes business moves, hes a ducker. Come on. Ya'll can keep saying that Bradley doesn't draw, but the FACT is (as Khan said from his own mouth) THE WORLD WANTS TO SEE BRADLEY VS KHAN. He must be worth something if the whole world wants to see it, no?? In this case, it's gonna take BOTH of them to make the fight THE WHOLE WORLD WANTS TO SEE.Originally posted by romebyko View PostOnly thing I've have done is point out the truth..Can you name the time that Khan took a risk that you are asking Bradley to take??I'm not bias dude I like Khan and never said he duck anybody and I was/am looking forward to Bradley and Khan fighting..But I also understand boxing is a business(which you would understand if it was Khan and not Bradley)no matter how much we might not like it,it is what it is..
I don't think I or Bradley would blame Khan for having his business together..Which is a big reason I don't understand why you can blame Bradley for wanting to get his together..Khan is not a draw in the states bro so you can stop hyping it as if he is May or Pac..I like Khan but really don't(some)of his fans..They ****k ride so much they can't seeor think striaght,so you want Bradley to sign for this fight and be trap with Shaw even longer to give you and Khan what y'all want??Does that sound right to you??The fight will happen sooner or later dude chill out..
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It's funny how these guys come out of the woodworks with all there non-ducking bibles 6 million pages long, but where are they with other fighters?
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