Official Tarver-Johnson Decision Thread

[phallus]

Very true, and I agree (thats just not what the discussion was about though) It was about exactly when Jones had become "done"...if it was before or after the Tarver fights; not if he needed to prove himself even more

it was definitley before the tarver fights, Roy looked great against Ruiz because even a slow Roy Jones is light years faster than any heavyweight that ever lived, but when he went back down to 175 his decline in speed became very apparent, thinking back to the first fight with tarver i thought something was wrong with Roy, but decided it was having to burn off all the muscle he put on to be a heavyweight, but now i realize it was his lack of speed, he looked good at times in the fight but didn't look dazzling like he used to before ( i've been a roy jones fan since the mid 90's, so i've been watching his fights for long time ). the bad news for Roy is that his style depends on his amazing reflexes, he should have stayed a heavyweight he'd still be faster than anyone in the division

[tracylee]

it was definitley before the tarver fights, Roy looked great against Ruiz because even a slow Roy Jones is light years faster than any heavyweight that ever lived, but when he went back down to 175 his decline in speed became very apparent, thinking back to the first fight with tarver i thought something was wrong with Roy, but decided it was having to burn off all the muscle he put on to be a heavyweight, but now i realize it was his lack of speed, he looked good at times in the fight but didn't look dazzling like he used to before ( i've been a roy jones fan since the mid 90's, so i've been watching his fights for long time ). the bad news for Roy is that his style depends on his amazing reflexes, he should have stayed a heavyweight he'd still be faster than anyone in the division

Oh okay, got ya! So, his biggest asset was his speed??

[phallus]

Oh okay, got ya! So, his biggest asset was his speed??

his style depends on his speed, without greasy fast speed he gets KTFO'd, the speed allowed roy to do the things that other fighters ( and now RJJ ) get knocked out for doing, especially keeping his hands low, the speed allowed him to make mistakes and not get caught - now when he makes the same mistakes, he gets caught ( first by Tarver's lucky punch and then by Johnson's swarming attack).

[tracylee]

his style depends on his speed, without greasy fast speed he gets KTFO'd, the speed allowed roy to do the things that other fighters ( and now RJJ ) get knocked out for doing, especially keeping his hands low, the speed allowed him to make mistakes and not get caught - now when he makes the same mistakes, he gets caught ( first by Tarver's lucky punch and then by Johnson's swarming attack).

Makes sense babe...and I know he was notorious for keepign that hand down LOW! He did get away with that for a very long time