Pacquiao/Mayweather's last 5 fights
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Let's break down their last 5 fights to show just how much Pacquiao is the product of great match making and to show that Floyd has actually been fighting better opposition and Pac is actually the one cherry picking. Only people who sip the Pacquiao kool aid are people who don't know boxing and/or hate Floyd. He's a great fighter (first ballot hall of famer, ATG, legend) but the media and Top Rank are fooling people with the Manny Pacquiao deception. He hasn't been in a real fight since Marquez II, and we all know how that went for him. Floyd has been inactive these past years, but when he's in the ring he's gunning for the top guys.
Floyd Mayweather Jr
1. Shane Mosley - ranked p4p # 3 at the time, welter weight champion, and coming off a huge TKO victory against Margarito
2. Juan Manuel Marquez - ranked p4p # 2 at the time, coming off great victories, and arguably beat Pacquiao twice (albeit at BS catchweight, but Pacquiao is considering the same catchweight)
3. Ricky Hatton - ranked p4p # 5, 140 king, undefeated
4. Oscar De La Hoya - ranked top ten p4p, cash cow, coming off a great victory against Mayorga and the fight took place at a healthy weight for DLH, 154 champ (edited by code red)
5. Carlos Baldomir - had all the welter weight belts, coming off a huge upset against Zab Judah
Manny Pacquiao
1. Shane Mosley - hadn't won a fight in over 2 years, not ranked p4p, no belt, 39 years old (Floyd leftover)
2. Antonio Margarito - not ranked p4p, beat a journey man and had been KO'd by Mosley, no belt (fight took place at a catchweight at 150 for a 154 vacant belt), coming off suspension
3. Joshua Clottey - lost to all his big fights he fought, no belt, not ranked p4p
4. Miguel Cotto - had just beaten a bum, before that had been destroyed by Margarito, not ranked p4p (fight took place at a BS catchweight of 145 to drain Cotto)
5. Ricky Hatton - not ranked p4p, had a few victories but 2 fights prior had been KO'd (Floyd leftover)
Clottey is the best opponent he has faced out of the last five imho......sounds silly, but he actually beat Cotto, he would beat SSM at 147 and i think he would have beaten Margo in a rematch.....Manny's style is just terrible for him, that's why he got belted, but in terms of where these fighters were at it can be argued he is Manny's best win in his last five fights.Comment
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great analysis.....now get Mayweather to sign the contract and fight.....and don't give me that "take the test bull****"....if a man wants to fight they fight...no questions asked....especially if one man claims that the other man is one sided and that it would an easy fight...Comment
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I can see that, Clottey was a formidable opponent but I'm convinced Clottey either threw that fight or gave up mentally.Clottey is the best opponent he has faced out of the last five imho......sounds silly, but he actually beat Cotto, he would beat SSM at 147 and i think he would have beaten Margo in a rematch.....Manny's style is just terrible for him, that's why he got belted, but in terms of where these fighters were at it can be argued he is Manny's best win in his last five fights.Comment
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you have to go allllllll the way back to 2006 just to list Floyd's last 5 fights...that's 5 ****ing years...meanwhile, you only have to go back 2 years to list PAC's last 5
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Some of your statistics are false.Let's break down their last 5 fights to show just how much Pacquiao is the product of great match making and to show that Floyd has actually been fighting better opposition and Pac is actually the one cherry picking. Only people who sip the Pacquiao kool aid are people who don't know boxing and/or hate Floyd. He's a great fighter (first ballot hall of famer, ATG, legend) but the media and Top Rank are fooling people with the Manny Pacquiao deception. He hasn't been in a real fight since Marquez II, and we all know how that went for him. Floyd has been inactive these past years, but when he's in the ring he's gunning for the top guys.
Floyd Mayweather Jr
1. Shane Mosley - ranked p4p # 3 at the time, welter weight champion, and coming off a huge TKO victory against Margarito
2. Juan Manuel Marquez - ranked p4p # 2 at the time, coming off great victories, and arguably beat Pacquiao twice (albeit at BS catchweight, but Pacquiao is considering the same catchweight)
3. Ricky Hatton - ranked p4p # 5, 140 king, undefeated
4. Oscar De La Hoya - ranked top ten p4p, cash cow, coming off a great victory against Mayorga and the fight took place at a healthy weight for DLH, 154 champ (edited by code red)
5. Carlos Baldomir - had all the welter weight belts, coming off a huge upset against Zab Judah
Manny Pacquiao
1. Shane Mosley - hadn't won a fight in over 2 years, not ranked p4p, no belt, 39 years old (Floyd leftover)
2. Antonio Margarito - not ranked p4p, beat a journey man and had been KO'd by Mosley, no belt (fight took place at a catchweight at 150 for a 154 vacant belt), coming off suspension
3. Joshua Clottey - lost to all his big fights he fought, no belt, not ranked p4p
4. Miguel Cotto - had just beaten a bum, before that had been destroyed by Margarito, not ranked p4p (fight took place at a BS catchweight of 145 to drain Cotto)
5. Ricky Hatton - not ranked p4p, had a few victories but 2 fights prior had been KO'd (Floyd leftover)
Hatton was not P4P #5 when Floyd fought him, he was P4P #8.
Hatton was not unranked P4P when he fought Pacqiuaio, he was #10.
Cotto was not unranked P4P when he fought Pacquaio, he was #8.
Oscar was not Top 10 P4P when he fought Floyd.
Quite obvious you have an agenda here.Comment
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The problem I've always had with this logic is you're inevitably going to fight the same guys in your division win or lose if you're an active fighter. Nobody complained to Hagler when he fought Hearns after losing to Leonard, or Duran after losing to Leonard in the "No Mas" fight. Many of the Mayweather fans will make it convenient to mention Marquez and Mosley were #2 P4P or #1 Welterweight, but fail to mention the flipside of the coin where Marquez was climbing up 2 weight division after beating "JUAN DIAZ".........Juan...Diaz. Mosley had a big win over Margarito, but didn't fight Floyd for another 14 months, and Mosley by then had already lost to Cotto a couple yrs prior and had a very subpar fight against Mayorga. But of course, THESE things are ignored, but the opinionated P4P list is what's heralded over Pacquiao's wins.
As I stated in a previous thread, we can take every current fighter right now and dissect their resume and make a feast of leftovers, but most people who understand how Boxing works and has worked for over 60-70 yrs knows you're inevitably going to fight the same guys. It's simply a cop out to discredit Pacquiao's accomplishments in relation to Mayweather. Both dudes have fought ham and eggers and past prime guys, one is simply continuing to fight while the other remains dormant.Last edited by RL_GMA; 05-10-2011, 12:23 PM.Comment


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