~No Ceilings: Monthly P4P Rankings: May 9, 2011~

[miron_lang]

plz, even if u go by last 2 fights arce, donaire and gamboa would be under martinez. do u even watch boxing?? seriously...

martinez win over pwill is better than anything arce and gamboa has done in their whole career. now donaire, there is an argument. but the other two is just pure nonsense.

Typical for someone who knows absolutely **** about boxing.

Williams and Pavlik arent even his last 2 fights. And because of your shalow knowledge you jump on this two names. these two werent even in consideration for TOP 5 and even TOP 10 for Pavlik at the time they lost to Martinez.

Burner can be justified in selecting Martinez because he loves Paul William's Ass hole so much and Williams lost to Martinez.

Arce coming from the grave and winning by stopage a younger and bigger champion

Donairre performing above expectations in a superfight.

both > Sergio's


Again you have your list and all the other who knows boxing can have theirs.

[sdcluser]

WTF How in the name of jesus ****ing Christ is Sergio above Manny??? How the hell is Nonito above Froch, when Froch resume ****s on most fighters today!!!!

Froch lost to Kessler.

[Lords]

Miss pacman is fighting cans in my book. Floyd's left over of Hatton and a weightdrained toothpick DeLaHoya, Clottey coming off a loss to Cotto, Margicheato getting knocked out by Mosley and coming off a year suspention, Mosley who Floyd whiped easy and coming off a draw to Mora, A refuse to fight Cotto at 147 for the 147 title and would only would fight him at 145 and nothing else, win. Its pretty pathetic. They refuse to fight Foreman because hes to tall yet they want to fight margicheato, why not fight Paul williams at 150 instead? Because there to pus to even mention that fight. Martinez is P4P #1

[sdcluser]

Gamboa???
Berto??? For **** sake, he got his **** kicked in by Ortiz!!
Froch have a better resume than most in your list lmao!!!!

oops I mean Ortiz.

[miron_lang]

I stopped reading when I saw Arce at Number 1. Seriously?

Like you. that idiot likes to see what he wants to see. and he said his criteria is just the last two fights.


Jorge Arce defeated a bigger , younger champion by Knockout. 5 Division above his original.


That is Shane Mosley climbing to 160 and beating Dmitry Pirog.

[venom715]

If Manny Pacquiao was a natural 160 pounder, how do you think a fight between him and Martinez would turn out?

[johncods]

Oh the idiot again. Pac is #1 and I know it kills you inside. Martinez beat two punching bags in williams and pavlik and he is better than Pac? Besides those two bums who has he beat? Cintron? bahahaha.

[ChampBox@PR]

If Manny Pacquiao was a natural 160 pounder, how do you think a fight between him and Martinez would turn out?

Martinez gets slaughter, *****s are just trying to be cute here!!!

[eklok]

he beat durk durk , lols

[RockyB]

Every Month on the first Monday I'll post my opinion of the P4P rankings:



1. Sergio Martinez: The new P4P Number 1 imo. I cant stand this man because he destroyed my favorite fighter (Paul Williams) but I cant deny hes beastly. Hes been on a roll beating top Prime fighters. Cintron fight was a draw but we know the truth. He stopped Cintron. Outboxed Pavlik to win the Lineal Middleweight crown. Destroyed consensus Top 10 P4Pounder and even some publications and sites had him Top 5 and Top 3 fighter in Paul Williams. Then went on to outbox and stop JMW King, Dzizniruk. His chasing of Ishida, Zbik and Chavez worries me but hopefully he faces another top fighter.

2. Manny Pacquiao: Former Number 1. I have to drop him to number 2. He put on a lackluster performance against a dead man walking. His post presser comment of "If he doesnt want to fight what do i do" was disgusting and showed how little hes really improved. Um Manny you....adjust? I dont know cut the ring off maybe? Go to the body? Counter the jab over the top? Anyway ever since he waxed Cotto hes been downhill opponent wise. Clottey, Margarito, Mosley and now rumour has it JMM at 147. Hes wasting some good years of his career. Very good fighter, good person and a beast in the ring but he needs to go back to 2008 form. When he was a KILLER. His excessive glove touching almost made me throw up. Hes too nice at times. And before you say well it was Shane starting it. I'll tell you this Shane tried to touch gloves with Floyd one too many times and Floyd punched him in the face. Shane didnt attempt it again.

3. Floyd Mayweather Jr.: IMO hes the best fighter in all of boxing. Hands down. Just way too inactive. Really needs to get back in the ring. Money is wasting the last years of his career by being so inactive.

4. Nonito Donaire: I was a devout hater of this man because he fought fighters way below his talent level for YEARS. It was like he beat Vic and just dissapeared. His destruction of Montiel who destroyed another fave of mine in Hasegawa was just brutal. Almost decapitated the guy. Rumoured to being going after Vic, Arce and Moreno.

5. Wladimir Klitschko: I dont like him. At all. But I wont deny his talent, skill level and the fact that even though the heavies suck its not his fault. He just wipes his butt with everyone he faces. Fighting David Haye next in what is imo the biggest heavyweight fight in years. Haye has the elusiveness, expolsiveness, speed and one punch KO power to off Wlads on switch ,should be a great fight.

6. JMM: What can I say. The stone throwing, piss drinking master boxer still has it. Dude can still fight even at what 37? In the last 5 years has only 2 Losses to : Floyd and Pacquiao. Hes the number 1 Lightweight in the world. The division doesnt have much to offer him but I still hate the Diaz fight. Its a joke. Rumoured to fight Pac again...ofcourse at a weight where he wont be that effective.

7. Headbutt: Hes dominated everybody hes ever faced and as much as it pains me to say this hes the man right now at 140. He beat another fave of mine in Alexander in one of the ugliest fights of the year. Also rumoured to fight Pacquiao. Allegedly ducked Amir Khan but if its for a Pac fight cant really call it ducking.

8. Headbutt Jr.: My boy S.O.G. Imo the BEST 168 pounder in the world. Has a complte game. Offense, defense, strength, speed, smarts, deceptive power and a good beard to boot. You can make the case that he hasnt lost a legit round since 2009. Hes been dominating people with ease. I fully expect him to once again shut out another fighter against AA.

9. Carl Froch: The Cobra is a flat out beast. Look at this resume; Since 2008 hes fought in order Pascal, Taylor, Dirrell, Kessler and AA and is scheduled to fight the Road Warrior. Sick, sick gauntlet to go through and imo he beat Kessler and lost to Dirrell. Froch not Pac has the best resume in boxing right now and its not even close.

10. Father Time: What is he 50 years old now? Just schooled Pascal didnt win the fight according to the judges though. Rematch coming up, if he stays on his feet he beats Pascal easily. Gotta watch the flash KD's.



On the outside looking in: Cotto, Wonjongkam, Segura, Williams, Gamboa, Khan and Cunningham.

I agree with most of these, even though i don't agree that Sergio is number one, Pac deserves the benefit of the doubt and let's see how he performs in his next fight. other than that it was a very good list.