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~No Ceilings: Monthly P4P Rankings: May 9, 2011~

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  • #31
    Originally posted by No Ceilings View Post
    No offense but saying put Khan and Cotto in over Ward kind of makes your knowledge of boxing as a whole just suspect. Im trying to rationalize in my head what Cotto or Kahn has done to be ranked over Ward. Im not trying to flame just wondering the reasoning behind it.

    I dont liek a lot of the fighters on the list but I would never say put Kahn and Cotto over them. I get you dont like Ward but lest be realistic.
    Because Ward has Kessler on his resume and i guess Bika is nice too

    Otherwise....Blah

    But like i said, the main reason he is up there is because he so very talented

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    • #32
      Originally posted by _original_ View Post
      solid list No Ceilings, I also agree Martinez should be ranked over Pacquiao. I'd leave Floyd out of there due to him not fighting and showing no interest in returning to boxing. Not sure about having Wlad in there, as I usually leave HW's outta my list, but I can respect it. I'd take Froch out and probably put Gamboa in there or Khan.
      Solid points, I dont liek ranking heavies because it defeats the P4P list purpose but Wlad deserves his due as much as I dont like him.

      But Froch hate or love him has fought some tough comp and held his own.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by No Ceilings View Post
        I love Gamboa and its time for him to march up the boxing ranks. Dude has the talent to be P4P Number 1 for years. Im ready to see it. Good points made.

        Cotto is a beast but watching Wolak kill Foreman diminsihed his win imo and I dont usaully play that kind of game with other people beating fighters but Foreman, Mayo and now Chavez does nothing for me.
        very true. just like how i disagree with the idea that if manny stays active and just keeps fighting, it'll keep him at #1. same should apply to cotto. but my argument is with bradley/khan being ranked. if bradley is ranked, why isn't khan? they're on the same level to me...either way, cotto and manny need better fights, for manny to stay #1 and for cotto to be ranked. wolak/cotto would be great if the margs fight can't happen.

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        • #34
          with all due respect your lists sucks balls..

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          • #35
            Originally posted by DempseyRollin View Post
            why look at the last 6? the first fight on those lists happened over 2 yrs ago. ahow about the last 3 or 4? no way pac fought the better fighters.

            he fough durk durk in his last outing , that makes him number 1 ?

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            • #36
              I love Hopkins but I dont really like him on the list.

              I mean yeah he had a great fight against Pascal that resulted in a draw, but remember that ****show against Roy Jones Jr.? I dont think his fight against Pascal really warrants him on a p4p list over a guy like Gamboa, Cotto, or Khan

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              • #37
                Originally posted by P4P305 View Post
                You shouldn't add Floyd to list at all. He's just too inactive. The guy is still the best all-around Boxer, but i don't need a P4P ranking to tell me that.
                agreed... coming from a floyd fan, he doesn't deserve to be on a p4p list. might as well put Ali on there if we're giving guys credit even if they aren't fighting anymore

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Danny Gunz View Post
                  I love Hopkins but I dont really like him on the list.

                  I mean yeah he had a great fight against Pascal that resulted in a draw, but remember that ****show against Roy Jones Jr.? I dont think his fight against Pascal really warrants him on a p4p list over a guy like Gamboa, Cotto, or Khan
                  Sadly I do...lol. On that note Pascal must really blow. I mean Hops looked terrible against Roy. He looked awful. Then he turns around and wipes his butt with the 175 Pound Champ.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by DempseyRollin View Post
                    why look at the last 6? the first fight on those lists happened over 2 yrs ago. ahow about the last 3 or 4? no way pac fought the better fighters.
                    Originally posted by No Ceilings View Post
                    Miron, Martinez is on a roll. Beating better fighters than Pac has beating as of late and hes a better fighter than Pacquiao.

                    Yeah. that's your list and no one can argue with it. you can have any criteria you want or any fighter you want its a total subjective mythical list that anybody can have.

                    Its just the difference in Resume is so astonishing given that Martinez is even older than Pac


                    my P4P as of this moment the criteria being the most impressive in their last two fights.

                    1. Jorge Arce
                    2. Nonito Donairre
                    3 Yurikies Gamboa
                    4 Sergio Martinez
                    5. Manny Pacquiao
                    6. Victor Ortiz
                    7. Giovani Segura
                    8. Andre Ward
                    9. Wladimir Klitsko
                    10. Amir Khan

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by TuR'oK View Post
                      with all due respect your lists sucks balls..
                      Great breakdown.

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