~No Ceilings: Monthly P4P Rankings: May 9, 2011~

[ChampBox@PR]

Miron is all over the place. I mean while were at it lets judge by the last 6 years. Or the last 7,8,9. Its just ******. Martinez's stock is rising and Manny's is declining imo.

If someone wants to have Manny still at 1 fine but for anyone to act like its just beyond crazy to rank Sergfio at 1 is going way too far imo.

Martinez first good win, was in 2010, get your **** together numb-nuts!!!

Martinez career prior to that is a utter joke!!!!!

Just 3 fights doesnt cut it!!!

[Kagami Taiga]

LOL @ damn near every single post in this thread.

And, how can you not get Miron point? He's absolutely right.

SMH at damn near all of you guys.

hes abosolutely rite? based off of what? his made up justifications for how spectacular a fighter's win was. plz.

i got his point and hes still wrong. a win over williams within his last 2 fights and the way he did it makes it better than anything arce or gamboa has done whether within or outside of their last two fights. i dont even see how thats arguable.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

dzinziruk was the junior middleweight king? wasn't he rated 8th by the ring? only in internet boxing spinland can the 8th best in the division with a flimsy resume be considered the king. and martinez didn't even fight him in that division!

So who would you say was the best JMW?

[ChampBox@PR]

Clottey was 168.

Marg was 165.

You still want to continue? Put your gloves up and take two steps forward.

CLottey 168??? really??? Atleast post the link about it!!!!

Can Martinez beat Chad Dawson??? There should be no excuse since Pac can fight him according to your logic!!!

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Martinez first good win, was in 2010, get your **** together numb-nuts!!!

Martinez career prior to that is a utter joke!!!!!

Just 3 fights doesnt cut it!!!

So why does the ring have him at Number 2? According to you he shouldnt even be ranked. According to the Ring if Pac retired 5 seconds from now. MARTINEZ would be number 1.

Im sure you been a fan for a while stop acting like you dont know how this works Champ. Stop it.

Again why does the ring have him at 2? I mean afterall he only has 3 GOOD wins so if thats not enough to be number 1 in your eyes why is he at 2.

[jrosales13]

Miron is all over the place. I mean while were at it lets judge by the last 6 years. Or the last 7,8,9. Its just ******. Martinez's stock is rising and Manny's is declining imo.

If someone wants to have Manny still at 1 fine but for anyone to act like its just beyond crazy to rank Sergio at 1 is going way too far imo.

What I got from Miron point is that P4P is all an opinion based ranking. No opinion is wrong or right cuz' it just an opinion.

He put a list out there as Arce #1 P4P. I don't really think he believes Arce is #1 but made it and gave an opinion why. And, how can you say that opinion was wrong? It's an opinion....

P4P is mythical, is make belief. Nothing wrong with your list, nothing wrong with Miron list, nothing wrong with El C@cique@PR list, nothing wrong with my list. Nothing wrong with anybody P4P list.

The only thing wrong is when people act as if opinions are facts. For example yes you can say Khan>Ward, you can say Froch>Ward, you can say Ward>Khan/Froch.

[jrosales13]

hes abosolutely rite? based off of what? his made up justifications for how spectacular a fighter's win was. plz.

i got his point and hes still wrong. a win over williams within his last 2 fights and the way he did it makes it better than anything arce or gamboa has done whether within or outside of their last two fights. i dont even see how thats arguable.

What is cut off? Why not just the last fight period? A win over WV2>A win over Dzinziruk.

So if we going by last opponent only. How is it not justifiable?

[jrosales13]

You are a shot poster bro.

Martinez vs. Pac at 154. Who you picking?

And, what does that mean?

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

What I got from Miron point is that P4P is all an opinion based ranking. No opinion is wrong or right cuz' it just an opinion.

He put a list out there as Arce #1 P4P. I don't really think he believes Arce is #1 but made it and gave an opinion why. And, how can you say that opinion was wrong? It's an opinion....

P4P is mythical, is make belief. Nothing wrong with your list, nothing wrong with Miron list, nothing wrong with El C@cique@PR list, nothing wrong with my list. Nothing wrong with anybody P4P list.

The only thing wrong is when people act as if opinions are facts. For example yes you can say Khan>Ward, you can say Froch>Ward, you can say Ward>Khan/Froch.

Oh I get that. I know some people on this site who can type an essay on how Calzaghe is a Top 25 ATG. So I get thats it all opinion but I think when its over the top is when its like Serg has no case at all. I think thats crazy. Its not like people are saying Hops, Pong or Ward should be number 1. I think Serg has a legitmate case. But I get what youre saying it is all opinion based.

[ChampBox@PR]

What I got from Miron point is that P4P is all an opinion based ranking. No opinion is wrong or right cuz' it just an opinion.

He put a list out there as Arce #1 P4P. I don't really think he believes Arce is #1 but made it and gave an opinion why. And, how can you say that opinion was wrong? It's an opinion....

P4P is mythical, is make belief. Nothing wrong with your list, nothing wrong with Miron list, nothing wrong with El C@cique@PR list, nothing wrong with my list. Nothing wrong with anybody P4P list.

The only thing wrong is when people act as if opinions are facts. For example yes you can say Khan>Ward, you can say Froch>Ward, you can say Ward>Khan/Froch.

What is cut off? Why not just the last fight period? A win over WV2>A win over Dzinziruk.

So if we going by last opponent only. How is it not justifiable?