Comments Thread For: Pacquiao vs Marquez on 11/5 or 11/12, Says Arum

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  • pugay_kamay
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    #61
    Originally posted by TheTruth!
    I have no problem with JMM !

    Sign this fight now. Pacquiao isn't going to fight Mayweather, and Judah is mentally weak. Marquez is a warrior, make the fight happen!
    Mayweather isn't going to fight Pacquiao

    I corrected it for you and you are welcome.

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    • rocky_balboa23
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      #62
      Make JMM-Pac. I know JMM will go out blazing.

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      • DUCK FACE
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        #63
        The weight will not be an issue even at 147 they will be similar size once rehydrated..

        Did you guys see how Mosley kept Pac at bay with a weak jab and some movement?

        Marquez will give Pac a competitive fight and perhaps even win

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        • tibbar
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          #64
          Originally posted by onechance87
          Manny should not be p4p.I hope marquez gets a tuneup.I rather have manny
          fight ortiz
          then judah or bradley.What a joke arum is.
          ahh so you hope manny is like berto? oh ok.

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          • MoneyLarry
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            #65
            Manny Pacquiao puts Juan Manuel Marquez to sleep if they fight again. Won't go past 6 rounds. Manny Pacquiao is a completely different fighter since they lost fought. If Manny Pacquiao can put Shane Mosley on the ground and the fact Juan Manuel Marquez already has a glass jaw. Y'all already know and the DUMB @$$ Juan Manuel Marquez fans don't wanna believe it. Hold on to that hope.

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            • chillifists
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              #66
              Originally posted by pugay_kamay
              I have nothing against JMM but...

              How can you say Pacs' fighting bigger guys than him is not tough or tougher than who Marquez' had fought?

              Does this mean Diaz & Katsidis are far more tougher than Cotto, Clottey, Marg & Mosley?

              Can you please expound/elaborate/explain in details.
              Try not to get the marquee name or the physical size of the opponents you mentioned of both Pac & Marquez confused. Both Diaz and Katsidis may not be better fighters than the fighters you mentioned (maybe Clottey) but they were more competitive.

              Imo I feel Cotto, Clottey, Margs and Mosley were not in very good situations when they faced Pac and most were not at their best. Cotto still had not recovered fully from his 1st loss and was weight drained, Clottey was pay to take punchers on the gloves, Margs was damaged and Mosley was shot and didn't do anything (yes, I have not been impressed with the selection of his opponents..just great match making)

              Marquez on the other hand had just moved up to Lightweight (deep division) to beat Casamayor & Diaz in very tough fights and then returned to Lightweight after his brave attempt at Welter against the other 'p4p king' to only return to be Diaz again and Katsidis in tough fights.

              Marquez has been in more legitimate, competitive fights against live opponents while Manny has not been in a tough fight against disadvantaged opponents.

              Originally posted by Young Money
              What are you talking about!? JMM has looked great in his last few fights, I'm sure he will give Pac problems at any weight since his style suits skills more that physical strength.
              I agree he has looked great in his last few fights as I thought they were close to pick em' fights leading up to them, but he was still in tough fights against tough opponents. Because of those fights, Marquez has received more punishment in those fight therefore as gotten more taken outta him. Whereas Pacquaio has been in highly critized fights where none of his opponents have been able to really push and test him.

              Pacquaio has now become a Welterweight fighter where as Marquez is only a Lightweight fighter. Times goes by and just because Marquez gave Pac a hell of a fight in 2004 & 2008 at Super Featherweight..doesn't mean he will give Manny trouble in 2011 in a division Manny fights in now which is 2 division higher than Marquez is used to fighting in.

              Marquez is starting to show his age and his legs are starting to look a little shakey at times. Anything above 135 I believe will not be good for Marquez..specially against Pacquaio who is now bigger and has improved since.

              Times change and there is too much of a difference between the two now. This fight is no good as I believe if the fight takes place at Welterweight Marquez stays down this time!!

              I can name many other fighters (whose name isn't Mayweather) that would give Pacquaio a tougher fight than Marquez whose within or around the Welterweight division!!

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              • MidBoss
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                #67
                Originally posted by Maniac310
                Marquez is willing to fight Pacquiao 2 weight classes above his own...
                hell he fought Mayweather sure he lost but he had the balls to do it.


                Pacquiao should fight him at catch weight of 150 or 154
                Martinez can barely make 154 anymore, he won't take a catchweight fight, besides, aren't we already sick of catchweights? Pacquiao had to eat eat eat for this 147 fight, he cant make it to the 150s. Martinez could have as much as 15-20 pounds advantage as well as 4" in height and 8" in reach during the fight.
                Mismatch.

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                • Lorily
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by chillifists
                  The 3rd fight should have happend straight after the 2nd controversial fight..not 3 years later when Pacquaio is 2 weight classes higher!

                  Marquez gave Pac headaches and although Pac got the nod, I garuntee you he came out of the fight more discouraged that Marquez was..because actions speak louder than words.

                  Now Marquez has been 'selected' as the next victim in line for Pac due to Marquez being more older and Pac now being stronger. Marquez has started showing his age and been in much tougher fights than Pac, while Pac is bigger and now more stronger.

                  Another fight Manny knows he will win and get all the credit in the world for. I'm sick of Manny Pacquaio's choice of opponents!
                  That's all well and fine, and yes it should have happened much earlier - but you need to remember that it's been JMM that's been chasing Pac around hollering for a 3rd fight and making up T-Shirts. HE is the one that's begging for it, and he still believes he can beat Manny AT ANY WEIGHT.

                  I don't expect Manny will get any credit for beating JMM, but I damn sure would rather have seen Pac fight JMM last night then Mosely. JMM will not be an easy fight for Pac by any stretch of the imagination.

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                  • kymira
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by esconore
                    he should fight Ortiz
                    I agree. Say what you want about Victor but to me he proved in the last fight he can bring it.

                    If a Floyd fight aint happening, than the next best thing is a fight w/ a young hungry fighter like Ortiz. Besides FLoyd, these are the only guys who'll give Pac a run for his money, guys who are willing to take risks.

                    Fights Id like to see Pac in:

                    1.Ortiz
                    2.Bradley
                    3.Alvarez
                    4.Floyd
                    Retire.

                    Really who else is there to fight besides the up n coming guys. Part of being a true champ is enduring the second half of the climb, which is defending it from the young hungry lions.

                    The only problem now will be Arum.... but thats a whole other story.

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                    • aguileraluis22
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                      #70
                      come fight night pacquiao and marquez are the same size may a couple of pounds off. marquez weighed in at 142 on fight night his last fight and thats rehydrating from 135. funny to read all these posts about how manny is fighting bums. Yet i still don't see floyd trying to fight a "shot" cotto, a "damaged" margarito. but yet he beats the same mosley that pac beat last night and makes jmm come up to 147 and all of a sudden floyd's number one p4p. thats bull****.and for those who say manny isn't taking punishment against these bigger guys. i mean he rehydrates to 147 148 the other guys rehydrate to 154 and higher.and these are all guys who are considered at the elite boxing level. not prospects, or up and commers these are experienced elite fighters. The best fight out there is the manny that fought cotto againts the floyd mayweather that fought corley. that would be action packed fight.

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