Comments Thread For: Arum: "Pacquiao Will Never Face a Golden Boy Fighter!"

[WESS]

one way of looking at it is this

cotto lost to margarito
clottey lost to cotto
margarito lost to mosley
mosley lost to cotto

yup, they lost, but they lost to fighters who are on the top since 2008. pacquiao dominated all of them

none of them had a loss to other fighters beside mosley who lost to floyd.

this whole "not in a winning streak" argument is really weak.

LOL no its not silly billy. Cotto was DESTROYED... not just beaten but DESTROYED by possibly a cheater who later was proven to have loaded gloves. Margarito was not beaten but DESTROYED and suspended from boxing for a year due to loaded gloves. Clottey is a stepping stone and is STILL a nobody. Only got the fight because he was Top Rank. Just like Cotto and Margarito where. You like to point out they beat each other. Yes they did and NONE where the same when Pac got in the ring with them. Just like Mosley.

Pac didn't fight an undefeated/NOT KTFO Hatton. Pac didn't fight a 154 lb De La Hoya. Pac didn't fight an undefeated Cotto. Pac didn't fight a Margarito who hadn't gotten busted for plaster. All had been previously destroyed. I give Pac his props for JMM in 08 and Cotto in 09. All others I've called them like they where and have been 100% correct on the outcomes which where all shyt fights. But its like "i told you so" as many question the opposition just like I have been doing. Which results to an argument of who's better at WW. Its all opinion but both have great arguments. Its just one is a part time fighter the other keep it in house at least twice a year and still cant outsell the part time trouble maker/fighter.

Its what ever. I expect to see a very tired Shane which to me is just sad. Roach knows this. Experts know this. Casual boxing fans don't. Which is why there has been a big push for the casual fans... Its all marketing. Not matching the best vs the best.... regardless of what people think is not deserving or popular enough. Clottey was and is a nobody yet he got a shot and wasn't even a champion or the best. At the end of the day, like I've been saying for years. Bob Arum has an agenda.

Lets hope Mosley (who couldn't even keep up with Mayweather) is OK Sunday morning.

[Ryannn]

LOL no its not silly billy. Cotto was DESTROYED... not just beaten but DESTROYED by possibly a cheater who later was proven to have loaded gloves. Margarito was not beaten but DESTROYED and suspended from boxing for a year due to loaded gloves. Clottey is a stepping stone and is STILL a nobody. Only got the fight because he was Top Rank. Just like Cotto and Margarito where. You like to point out they beat each other. Yes they did and NONE where the same when Pac got in the ring with them. Just like Mosley.

Pac didn't fight an undefeated/NOT KTFO Hatton. Pac didn't fight a 154 lb De La Hoya. Pac didn't fight an undefeated Cotto. Pac didn't fight a Margarito who hadn't gotten busted for plaster. All had been previously destroyed. I give Pac his props for JMM in 08 and Cotto in 09. All others I've called them like they where and have been 100% correct on the outcomes which where all shyt fights. But its like "i told you so" as many question the opposition just like I have been doing. Which results to an argument of who's better at WW. Its all opinion but both have great arguments. Its just one is a part time fighter the other keep it in house at least twice a year and still cant outsell the part time trouble maker/fighter.

Its what ever. I expect to see a very tired Shane which to me is just sad. Roach knows this. Experts know this. Casual boxing fans don't. Which is why there has been a big push for the casual fans... Its all marketing. Not matching the best vs the best.... regardless of what people think is not deserving or popular enough. Clottey was and is a nobody yet he got a shot and wasn't even a champion or the best. At the end of the day, like I've been saying for years. Bob Arum has an agenda.

Lets hope Mosley (who couldn't even keep up with Mayweather) is OK Sunday morning.

cotto, hatton, and clottey are still good/great wins in my books. and so do a lot of people.

seems like you made up your mind on the issue though so no point in bringing up other arguments.

[iloveboxing2]

What an idiot...

..that's YOU!

Arum is overproetecting Pac, cause Pac is SCARED to fight real competition and wants easy, and FIXED FIGHTS.

This pac-Mosley fight is FIXED, thanks to Arum's crooked ways of making deals.

Mosley will “throw” the fight and “lay down” vs. Pac, just like Margarito, Clottey and DelaHoya did when each fought Pac.

That’s why Arum had Mosley leave Golden Boy Promotions, and sign with Top Rank Boxing, so that TRB has full rights on Mosley’s next fights and can use that as leverage to bribe Mosley into “throwing” the fight.

Arum has a lot of leverage on Mosley right now, cause Arum has offered Mosley 1-2 Million extra, if he “throws” the fight and lets Pac win.

Then Arum promised Mosley Big money PPV fights with rematches against Cotto, Margarito and Mayweather Jr. (as Mosley has now stated that those will be his next fights after "fighting" Pac, while Pac is already lined up to fight Marquez in the fall ).


Arum ( a former US Attorney) has also threaten Mosley to have him be arrested and face jailtime for using EPO Steroids when he fought Margarito, cause Arum knew in advance, that the reason Mosley told his (then) promoters-GBP, to move the Margarito-Mosley fight from Vegas to California, was to avoid detection of Mosley’s illegal use of the banned substance-EPO Steroids/Hormones.

The Nevada commissioner-Keith Kizer had warned Mosley, ahead of time, that he was gonna be blood tested for EPO Steroids, before fighting Margarito, this after a Federal Judge (US District Judge Susan Illston), in San Francisco , (out of concern for Margarito’s well-being), released Mosley EPO blood doping calendar to the public, so that everyone can see how Mosley “juices-up” with EPO, and where and how Mosley injects EPO through his stomach and uses the "cream", to avoid detection.

And since, Arum , knows all about this, he promised Mosley that he wont turn him in, if he “throws” the fight with Pac and lets Pac win on purpose.

After all, Mosley is no stranger to covering up conspiracies. Mosley covered up his very own Steroids uses, so its no surprise that Mosley will cover-up, this, now, FIXED FIGHT with Pac, in exchange for Arum not putting Mosley in jail, giving Mosley extra bribe money, and big PPV fights rematches against Cotto, Margo, and possibly Floyd, which could all total to over $15 million in PPV revenue for Mosley.

If Mosley doesn’t “throw” the fight with Pac, Arum will make excuses for Pac and say he “was sick” and had an "off-night", then he’ll put Mosley in jail for using steroids against Margarito. And after Mosley is of jail, Arum wont give him any fights and/or keep his contract in the meantime with small fights on ESPN or HBO After Dark, and/or stall Mosley’s career with no fights at all, the way Arum stalled Marquez, Soto and other’s careers.


This is why Arum has already scheduled Pac to fight Marquez this fall, cause this Pac-Mosley fight is already FIXED in Pac’s favor.

After all, its not the first time Pac has had a FIXED FIGHT.
Pac has had 3 FIXED FIGHTS already, and this Pac-Mosley will be Pac’s 4th FIXED FIGHT.

1.) Pac-DelaHoya was a FIXED FIGHT (so that DelaHoya can keep co-promoting Pac's future fights and make big profit)

2.) Pac-Clottey was a FIXED FIGHT (and now Clottey is set for life with lots of money, which is why he doesn’t have to fight, and hasn’t fought in over 1 year)

3.) Pac-Margarito was also a FIXED FIGHT (so that Margarito gets $7 Million Dollar payday, and re-licensing, which did not require any hearings, cause it was automaitaccily done by Pac’s co-promoters-DelaHoya, and Arum)

[Carpe Diem]

Damn, Pacqueens are out of control.

[WESS]

cotto, hatton, and clottey are still good/great wins in my books. and so do a lot of people.

seems like you made up your mind on the issue though so no point in bringing up other arguments.

Cotto is the only fight worth talking about... Most would agree.

Hatton was nothing more than a European bum even before Mayweather introduced him to the turn buckle. Clottey.... lol whatever dude.

Its whatever, Bob still has an agenda at the end of the day.

[Da Hammer]

I thought *****s said that Floyd is his own boss and that "all road lead to mayweather"? So why would this interfere with the fight getting made?

[-Spinal-]

he'd find another one like he has before

No, he won't find another one, he'll make another one. Bob Arum creates great fighters, he takes bums off the streets and makes them millionares. Me and you can go to Bob Arum right now and ask him to invest money on us, doesn't matter if we suck at boxing, he will teach us how to box, he will give us talent, he will make us the next Mayweather, DLH, and Pacquiao. We don't even have to do much, he will have us living a lavish life.

[-Spinal-]

What would they be without the NBA, MLB or the NHL?


Nothing. Because they'd be what women softball players are. Done with college and out to find a job.

If that is your way of thinking then whatever. I'm not going to continue debating about that. I am where I am right now because my own decisions, and nobody is any different. We all end up where we end up because of our decisions. Just like people want to thank god for every good thing that has happened to them, and blame themselves for every bad thing that has happened to them. In the end, all the good and bad that happens to you, it's all because of your own decisions. Excluding of course if you were born and raised in poverty as a child and don't have the luxury to work, go to school, play sports, etc. Other than that, there should be no excuse.

[jbpanama]

Translation-I want to keep having mismatches and want to keep all the
money.

Forget the Z, nice post El PUTO!!!

[LeadUppercut]

I'm LOL'in onto the people having that amount of posts and time for all this **** when the issue is already a given since scumbag Bob really had it as a plan since he got Pac.

Come on man, Arum works for Manny, Pac could fight whoever he wants.

He is content being a manufactured fighter, and winning his fights at the negotiating table rather in the ring.