Comments Thread For: Arum: "Pacquiao Will Never Face a Golden Boy Fighter!"

[FerdinandMarcos]

manny is still with top rank and he already surpassed both in terms of legacy..

No he hasn't.

He better keep hiding behind Bob and un-assing 30%.

[bluetuazon]

i agree bro,Such a shame manny is an idiot to notice it.

made 32 million last year alone minus endorsements is an idiot to you????

how much did u make??? exactly........what should i call u then???

[jtiger777]

so what if floyd wants to fight pac he has his own promotional company lol at *****s saying pac is ducking floyd

pac is not ducking floyd arum is ducking floyd and taking advantage of pac... U get it?

[LeadUppercut]

you still mad i sonned you in your business thread huh..

Kid, do you mean this thread.....

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10397148#post10397148

The one where you slunk off and hid in the corner ?

The thread where you would not discuss boxing, and would not reply to my 3 posts? I tell you what, let's continue here then

Recently, we had Saul Alvarez fighting Matthew Hatton for the vacant WBC JMW title. Now, as many of you may be aware, the fact that a title was on the line for that fight, is an absolute fkn joke.

* that fight was for a vacant title
* one competitor was not a JMW, nor was he ranked at welter
* the other guy was not much more than a prospect
* that fight was held at a catchweight
* one competitor failed to make weight

Funny thing is, when that fight was first announced, it was not a title fight.

The WBC title, was an " after-thought ".

All-in-all, a pretty disgusting turn of events.

Anyways, what amused me after that fight, were the many Pacquiao fans who chose to toast Canelo because they considered him to be a worthless paper champ, who just got handed a worthless paper title.

Hmmm..... anyone see where I am going with this ?

Here are the facts regarding the Margarito vs Pacquiao fight.....

* that fight was for a vacant JMW title
* neither of the competitor's were a JMW
* that fight was held at catchweight
* one of the competitors could not even have beaten any of the top welter's
* neither of the competitors could beat any of the top JMW's

So, Canelo is a bum, but 27% is an 8-division titlist? WTF?

I am absolutely positive that the only sort of person who could come to that conclusion, would be a pig-ignorant, non-boxing, fan-boy.

" oh, but what about Floyd, he never defended his title..... "

FACT: Mayflower fought a genuine JMW
FACT: Mayflower fought a genuine champion
FACT: Mayflower fought at the divisional limit
FACT: 27% did none of those things

The Margarito vs Pacquiao fight was for a vacant title, it was fought at catchweight, 27% did not fight a JMW, he did not fight a champion, and he used 8oz gloves.

All-in-all, that is AT LEAST as bad as the Canelo fight, worse in my opinion.

Why ?

Because, Canelo intends to defend, and 27% NEVER intended to fight a genuine JMW..... EVER!!

Well before that fight even took place, Team Pacquiao publicly stated that Manny will not defend his title, and that he will never fight a genuine JMW.....
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/10...-pacman-fights

27% never intended to fight a genuine JMW, he just wanted to cheat history by stealing a worthless paper title.

How fkn lame is that?

Go figure, what a cherry-picking b1tch ol' 27% turned out to be

I am guessing that 27%'s anus shriveled up like a year-old prune when Sergio Martinez called him out. " no speak engrish "

[LeadUppercut]

you still mad i sonned you in your business thread huh..

I tell you what, let's continue here then

Miguel Cotto.....

When Pacquiao fought Cotto, Miguel had just been destroyed by Margarito and then battered by Clottey. EVERY reputable trainer/reporter/analyst said that Cotto looked shop-worn and well-faded, and that he had been in too many wars.

Cotto was not on top of his game, he had begun to slide, he had no trainer to speak of, and was struggling with problems both in camp and at home relating to a family matter that affected his relationship with head trainer Evan Cotto.

Miguel was not on top of his game, and he most certainly was not in his prime..... plus, Pacquiao tried to drain him on the scales.

Listen to this reporter's take on the subject, shortly after the Clottey fight....

"I wasn’t exactly shocked to see Manny Pacquiao’s name being linked for a fight with Miguel Cotto after the Puerto Rican fighters disappointing performance last Saturday night against Joshua Clottey. As bad as Cotto looked in the fight, and believe me Cotto looked pretty awful, it seemed like a no brainer that Pacquiao would then select him as his next opponent.

But my question is why isn’t Pacquiao going after Shane Mosley or Paul Williams instead? Why the emphasis at fighting Cotto, when he was destroyed by Antonio Margarito last year? It seems to me the much better choice for Pacquiao would be to go after Mosley, since he beat Margarito a few months ago by a 9th round TKO.

Since Margarito has already stopped Cotto, the logical choice for Pacquiao to fight would be Mosley. That’s the bout that Pacquiao should be going after unless he wants to be considered a cherry picker."

Pacquiao saw that Cotto was ripe, so he jumped on him, but even the fact that Cotto had faded was not enough of an advantage for 27%..... so he demanded a catch-weight of 145lbs.

A catch-weight, for a title fight..... *** me, that is lame.

Cotto of course, flatly refused. Miguel stated "147 if you want my title, but no-title if you need a catchweight". Of course, 27% demanded a catchweight and the title, it became a sticking point to get the fight made, so Cotto was forced to concede.

But even that was not enough for 27%, he demanded 143, even though his trainer Freddie Roach agreed to 144. Luckily for Miguel he stuck to his guns, or those cherry-picking ****s would have dragged him down to 143lbs.....

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/275865

Catch-weights.....

There are only two reasons to demand a catch-weight.....

1.) you are not good enough to compete with your opponent at his natural weight

2.) you are attempting to drain your opponent to gain an unfair advantage

Pacquiao tried to drain Cotto, because Manny had already fought at 147.

The 143lb demand was an absolute joke, they really tried to do a number on Cotto. Just because the bullet missed, does not lessen the intent.

Shame on 27% for cheating history, not once, but twice, because he did the same thing to Margarito..... Emmanuel Steward was correct when he said that Pacquiao is a cherry-picker who does not compare with truly great fighters.

What a lame b1tch that 27% kid turned out to be.

Shane Mosley.....

What can I say, this will be short and sweet..... that cherry-picking pu$$y Manny "padded" Pacquiao ducked Shane Mosley not once, but TWICE !!

Initially Mosley offered to go down to 142-143, then he offered to drop to 140, but still 27% would not front up and fight him.

Until that is, Shane was a year older, and had suffered a loss to Mayweather in which he looked like an old man, and an ugly draw with Sergio Mora.

Now, all of a sudden..... Shane's the man.

Who woulda thought, a boxer gets old and slow, and he strikes the payday.

WTF ?

Notice a pattern emerging ?

Shot.....
Hoya > Hatton > Cotto > Margarito > Shane..... then 40yo Marquez at 150 ?

What a fkn hype-job that 27% kid is.

[LeadUppercut]

you still mad i sonned you in your business thread huh..

I tell you what, let's continue here then

Manny Pacquiao's last 7 opponents.....

Lately, a number of observers have commented that all of Manny Pacquiao's recent opponents have either been old, faded, or inept. Let's take a closer look at 27%'s recent fights, and see if there is any truth to that allegation.....

Accusations leveled at Pacquiao include.....

* Manny will not fight a skilled boxer
* Manny will not fight a skilled counter-puncher
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody who is coming off a win
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage

Let's apply that criteria to 27%'s last 7 opponents, and see how they stack up.

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David Diaz - Not a top fighter, faded, disadvantaged.....
* Manny will not fight a skilled boxer
* Manny will not fight a skilled counter-puncher
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage

Oscar De La Hoya - Shot, drained, and shrink-wrapped.....
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody who is coming off a win
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage

Ricky Hatton - Not a top fighter, faded, and disadvantaged.....
* Manny will not fight a skilled boxer
* Manny will not fight a skilled counter-puncher
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody who is coming off a win
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage

Miguel Angel Cotto - Badly faded / shopworn, and disadvantaged.....
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody who is coming off a win
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage

Joshua Clottey - Not a top fighter, and strangely innocuous.....
* Manny will not fight a skilled boxer
* Manny will not fight a skilled counter-puncher
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody who is coming off a win
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage

Antonio Margarito - Not a top fighter, faded, disadvantaged.....
* Manny will not fight a skilled boxer
* Manny will not fight a skilled counter-puncher
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody who is coming off a win
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage

Shane Mosley - Faded, shopworn, and disadvantaged.....
* Manny will not fight anybody who is in their prime
* Manny will not fight anybody who is on top of their game
* Manny will not fight anybody who is coming off a win
* Manny will not fight anybody without a distinct advantage

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All-in-all, that is a damn shabby line-up for a supposed P4P fighter, especially when you consider all of the advantages afforded to 27% during those fights..... e.g. fighting for a vacant JMW title, at catch-weight, against a BUM, and using 8oz gloves

Now, I can understand a top fighter taking the odd bout against a lesser opponent.....
but EVERY opponent in your last 7 fights?

How fkn lame is that ?

The last time 27% fought a live dog was Marquez II, and according to a significant number of trainers/fighters/journalists/analysts..... HE LOST!!

SUMMARY: There is no question that 27% is a manufactured fighter, with a padded resume'..... quite simply, just more Top Rank smoke and mirrors.

[GRUSTLER]

No he hasn't.

He better keep hiding behind Bob and un-assing 30%.

Now you know for sure that this guy is delusional. Oscar De La Hoya fought everyone, win or lose. Floyd never fought a catchweight title fight even when he was smaller than Oscar moving up to 154. On top of that. Manny is only fighting guys Floyd beat, 3 times already. Manny ain't surpasses Oscar or Floyd. Maybe media, hype wise but that's about it.

[zzat]

******!! Didn't you read the article, Arum was clearly leaving Floyd out of the mess, GBP is his main target and it stops there when he said that he knows that Floyd is no longer connected with GBP, and then ended the interview with "Floyd can do whatever he wants", Arum just doesn't want to share dollars with Oscar but still targets Floyd for a potential SUPERFIGHT...

Did you read that part that talks about the Lawsuit and the statements made by GBP?

Did you read the part that said something about a public apology?

Do you think Arum forgives the Mayweathers?

If Arum won't let Many fight a GBP fighter because of what they said then that applies to Mayweather too. He said the same things aswell.

[FerdinandMarcos]

is OSCAR and Floyd a bigger name than Pac NOW? if not, then why need to leave the green pasture?

Floyd outsells Manny against common opponents.

Oscar and Floyd are too smart to give Arum 30%

Pac has the worst contract since Elvis and Colonel Tom Parker..

[FerdinandMarcos]

Now you know for sure that this guy is delusional. Oscar De La Hoya fought everyone, win or lose. Floyd never fought a catchweight title fight even when he was smaller than Oscar moving up to 154. On top of that. Manny is only fighting guys Floyd beat, 3 times already. Manny ain't surpasses Oscar or Floyd. Maybe media, hype wise but that's about it.

History wont be kind to Pacroid.