Comments Thread For: Arum: I Will Never Forgive Golden Boy, The Mayweathers

[FerdinandMarcos]

Pac is a PED user, just accept it dude

He doesn't care...Pac is ALL he has.

[GRUSTLER]

i understand. floyd fans will never see floyd as the guy who is holding up this fight. arum made two official attempts now. the second one was confirmed by hbo exec greenburg. it can't be all arum. in the words of a philosopher whose name will remain anonymous, "it takes two to tango" no amount of arum reaching out to floyd will make the fight happen if floyd don't want none of it. but i understand. being a fan of floyd is not easy. it hurts seeing him associated with pu55iness.

2 official attempts by Arum? The first negotiations when everyone was at the table, Pac walked away to fight Clottey.

[FerdinandMarcos]

Lol, They ask my fighter to do testing cry cry cry, Why are you complaining if your fighter claims he would do random blood test?

Hmmmmmmm...it makes you think.

[tacuso]

ok indy. i'll just take your word for it that nobody at any point in time explained to pacquiao that those tests were for illegal recreational drugs or performance enhancing drugs

Pac for sure know the tests is for drugs(example : stimulants like methamphetamine). The probability that he knows steroid specifically is very low. Steroid is not a well known substance with the "masses". Maybe it is known by body builders but there are no hulking body builders from the Philippines.

[tomhawq]

2 official attempts by Arum? The first negotiations when everyone was at the table, Pac walked away to fight Clottey.

negotiations don't end in one round. it can happen as many times as concerned parties want. you know that, don't you?

[GRUSTLER]

negotiations don't end in one round. it can happen as many times as concerned parties want. you know that, don't you?

But technically there is only 1 official negotiation when everyone was involved and Pac didn't take the fight. He got up from the table.

[FerdinandMarcos]

toney is a black fighter from ****** america where ilegal drugs are like candies...and you compare his lifestyle with pac? so ignorant

how many filipino boxers have been busted for ilegal drugs vs blacks/mexicans/etc...?

when it comes to being clean, filipino fighers are probably the cleanest/drug free boxers there are in boxing

The most popular Filipino fight is SCARED to PROVE he's clean.

Manny is crooked little man from a Country filled to the brim with crooked little men.

At least James Tony didn't grow up eating dogs.

[tomhawq]

But technically there is only 1 official negotiation when everyone was involved and Pac didn't take the fight. He got up from the table.

if the hbo official says it happened, then it's considered official. obviously, arum/pac attempted to correct their mistakes in the second one. floyd did nothing.

here's something you can add here (somewhat):

why is it when fighters dont take the first offer people scream duck??

[FerdinandMarcos]

Manny has to take extensive tests becaaaause........

list your evidences here.

you seem to have plenty of time writing long posts.

Seems like you would want Manny to prove he's clean.

Ya'll KNOW he's dirty.

[FerdinandMarcos]

Grow up man, you know nothing about boxing.

Cotto, Clottey, and Margarito ?

Firstly, give yourself an uppercut for mentioning Clottey

Miguel Cotto.....

When Pacquiao fought Cotto, Miguel had just been destroyed by Margarito and then battered by Clottey. EVERY reputable trainer/reporter/analyst said that Cotto looked shop-worn and well-faded, and that he had been in too many wars.

Cotto was not on top of his game, he had begun to slide, he had no trainer to speak of, and was struggling with problems both in camp and at home relating to a family matter that affected his relationship with head trainer Evan Cotto.

Miguel was not on top of his game, and he most certainly was not in his prime..... plus, Pacquiao tried to drain him on the scales.

Listen to this reporter's take on the subject, shortly after the Clottey fight....

"I wasn’t exactly shocked to see Manny Pacquiao’s name being linked for a fight with Miguel Cotto after the Puerto Rican fighters disappointing performance last Saturday night against Joshua Clottey. As bad as Cotto looked in the fight, and believe me Cotto looked pretty awful, it seemed like a no brainer that Pacquiao would then select him as his next opponent.

But my question is why isn’t Pacquiao going after Shane Mosley or Paul Williams instead? Why the emphasis at fighting Cotto, when he was destroyed by Antonio Margarito last year? It seems to me the much better choice for Pacquiao would be to go after Mosley, since he beat Margarito a few months ago by a 9th round TKO.

Since Margarito has already stopped Cotto, the logical choice for Pacquiao to fight would be Mosley. That’s the bout that Pacquiao should be going after unless he wants to be considered a cherry picker."

Pacquiao saw that Cotto was ripe, so he jumped on him, but even the fact that Cotto had faded was not enough of an advantage for 27%..... so he demanded a catch-weight of 145lbs.

A catch-weight, for a title fight..... *** me, that is lame.

Cotto of course, flatly refused. Miguel stated "147 if you want my title, but no-title if you need a catchweight". Of course, 27% demanded a catchweight and the title, it became a sticking point to get the fight made, so Cotto was forced to concede.

But even that was not enough for 27%, he demanded 143, even though his trainer Freddie Roach agreed to 144. Luckily for Miguel he stuck to his guns, or those cherry-picking ****s would have dragged him down to 143lbs.....
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/275865

Catch-weights.....

There are only two reasons to demand a catch-weight.....

1.) you are not good enough to compete with your opponent at his natural weight

2.) you are attempting to drain your opponent to gain an unfair advantage

Pacquiao tried to drain Cotto, because Manny had already fought at 147.

The 143lb demand was an absolute joke, they really tried to do a number on Cotto. Just because the bullet missed, does not lessen the intent.

Shame on 27% for cheating history, not once, but twice, because he did the same thing to Margarito..... Emmanuel Steward was correct when he said that Pacquiao is a cherry-picker who does not compare with truly great fighters.

Margarito.....

Recently, we had Saul Alvarez fighting Matthew Hatton for the vacant WBC JMW title. Now, as many of you may be aware, the fact that a title was on the line for that fight, is an absolute fkn joke.

* that fight was for a vacant title
* one competitor was not a JMW, nor was he ranked at welter
* the other guy was not much more than a prospect
* that fight was held at a catchweight
* one competitor failed to make weight

Funny thing is, when that fight was first announced, it was not a title fight.

The WBC title, was an " after-thought ".

All-in-all, a pretty disgusting turn of events.

Anyways, what amused me after that fight, were the many Pacquiao fans who chose to toast Canelo because they considered him to be a worthless paper champ, who just got handed a worthless paper title.

Hmmm..... anyone see where I am going with this ?

Here are the facts regarding the Margarito vs Pacquiao fight.....

* that fight was for a vacant JMW title
* neither of the competitor's were a JMW
* that fight was held at catchweight
* one of the competitors could not even have beaten any of the top welter's
* neither of the competitors could beat any of the top JMW's

So, Canelo is a bum, but 27% is an 8-division titlist? WTF?

I am absolutely positive that the only sort of person who could come to that conclusion, would be a pig-ignorant, non-boxing, fan-boy.

" oh, but what about Floyd, he never defended his title..... "

FACT: Mayflower fought a genuine JMW
FACT: Mayflower fought a genuine champion
FACT: Mayflower fought at the divisional limit
FACT: 27% did none of those things

The Margarito vs Pacquiao fight was for a vacant title, it was fought at catchweight, 27% did not fight a JMW, he did not fight a champion, and he used 8oz gloves.

All-in-all, that is AT LEAST as bad as the Canelo fight, worse in my opinion.

Why ?

Because, Canelo intends to defend, and 27% NEVER intended to fight a genuine JMW..... EVER!!

Well before that fight even took place, Team Pacquiao publicly stated that Manny will not defend his title, and that he will never fight a genuine JMW.....
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/10...-pacman-fights

27% never intended to fight a genuine JMW, he just wanted to cheat history by stealing a worthless paper title.

How fkn lame is that?

Go figure, what a cherry-picking b1tch ol' 27% turned out to be.

I am guessing that 27%'s anus shriveled up like a year-old prune when Sergio Martinez called him out. " no speak engrish "

LOL@ 27%

Manny has the worst contract since Elvis Presley and Colonel Tom Parker