Is Floyd's best win tainted. Was Corrales really dehydrated and weak in the fight

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  • Code Red
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    #111
    Mike Murni give it a rest

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      #112
      Originally posted by jrosales13
      Mosley is like 4th IMO. I rank the Castillo and Chicanito wins higher.
      really? where was castillo & chicanito ranked p4p wise compared to mosley when floyd fougth them?

      mosley was ranked much higher. chicanito wont even make it to HOF. same with castillo while shane is a shoo in.

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        #113
        Originally posted by Ray*
        No he wasnt, Again he fought for years after he lost that fight at 130, Again he was beaten and humilated for 10 rounds, again a fight like that DOESNT deserve a rematch, Yes a rematch to a close fight, a rematch to (Castillo-Mayweather type fights) but a one-sided beat down? Nah
        The fight was a combination of Corales being drained and Floyd's style advantage over Corales..Corales spent the entire fight following Floyd around, touching his gloves, and looking at the scoreboard for the time..

        If it wasnt for the threat of his father to stop the fight, he wouldnt even make an effort at all in the 8th. He showed something but it was really nothing, it was just better than what he showed in the first 7 rounds..

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          #114
          Originally posted by Pastrano
          Corrales made a mistake in trying to tire out Floyd. He tired out Freitas, but Floyd was just too clever for him. Chico waited too long with mounting an offensive and was subsequently grinded down.
          Yeah he was willing to lose the first 3 rounds hoping he can grind it out. But he didnt really show anything even after that. His legs were obviously weak plus he was getting tagged by Floyd as well.

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            #115
            Originally posted by oj simpson
            really? where was castillo & chicanito ranked p4p wise compared to mosley when floyd fougth them?

            mosley was ranked much higher. chicanito wont even make it to HOF. same with castillo while shane is a shoo in.
            I really don't go by that P4P stuff, I mean that is imaginary, it's opinion based.

            And, again HOF is all good and all. But, just because Oscar is going to make it into the HOF doesn't mean that win for Pac is better than Pac win over Ledwaba or Sasakul which were good wins better than the Oscar win in terms of resume.

            Because, more importantly than who is when.

            And, when Floyd fought Chicanito, Floyd had what like 17 fights or so? Had only been pro for like 2 years. And, it was a huge step up fight. And, Chicanito was undefeated at that weight-class if I'm not mistaken. That was a damn good win.

            Castillo was the man at 135, and then considering the run he had after Floyd where he damn near cleaned out the division. Was incredible, another damn good win for Floyd.

            And, another reason that I hold those 2 wins higher than Mosley is because, Shane was coming off a 16 month layoff. The longest inactivity stretch of his career. But, was still a good win IMO. Where I rank it 4th ahead of Chavez, Hernandez, Manfreddy(all solid to good wins) Oscar, Gatti, Baldomir, Corley, and Judah wins,.

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              #116
              Originally posted by jrosales13
              I really don't go by that P4P stuff, I mean that is imaginary, it's opinion based.

              And, again HOF is all good and all. But, just because Oscar is going to make it into the HOF doesn't mean that win for Pac is better than Pac win over Ledwaba or Sasakul which were good wins better than the Oscar win in terms of resume.

              Because, more importantly than who is when.

              And, when Floyd fought Chicanito, Floyd had what like 17 fights or so? Had only been pro for like 2 years. And, it was a huge step up fight. And, Chicanito was undefeated at that weight-class if I'm not mistaken. That was a damn good win.

              Castillo was the man at 135, and then considering the run he had after Floyd where he damn near cleaned out the division. Was incredible, another damn good win for Floyd.

              And, another reason that I hold those 2 wins higher than Mosley is because, Shane was coming off a 16 month layoff. The longest inactivity stretch of his career. But, was still a good win IMO. Where I rank it 4th ahead of Chavez, Hernandez, Manfreddy(all solid to good wins) Oscar, Gatti, Baldomir, Corley, and Judah wins,.
              Well thats that.

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                #117
                Originally posted by mikemurni
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                For Corrales, it meant making the dreaded 130-pound limit one last time; one final episode of long days with only a g****fruit to eat, of jogging in rubber suits and of endless steam baths to get down to the limit. One more time, and he’d be off to the 135-pound lightweights and living fat, never having to take off those terrible final pounds again.

                He walked up to the scale, and the fight was, in a sense, lost right there. For all his efforts in the steam bath that morning, shedding 8 pounds, he was still 132--two pounds overweight. He went back and ****** the 2 pounds off in time for the weigh-in. A day later, his body both starved and waterlogged from his ensuing rehydration, he entered the ring--146 pounds at fight time--and the results were a disaster.


                http://www.newsreview.com/sacramento/content?oid=14761

                So you see folks, the history of weight draining was started by Floyd himself as early as 2001, months before Pac even had his first fight in the states.


                Mayweather fought Corrales in 2001...Corrales fought at 130lbs till 2004.....how the **** was he weight drained for 130lbs is he stayed in that division till 2004?


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                  #118
                  Originally posted by No Ceilings
                  Well thats that.
                  No one is dis*****g that it was Floyd's best win. It's just tainted because Chico didnt enter the ring in the right condition...

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                    #119
                    Originally posted by Cash Cow


                    Mayweather fought Corrales in 2001...Corrales fought at 130lbs till 2004.....how the **** was he weight drained for 130lbs is he stayed in that division till 2004?


                    Yeah I always wondered that...lol.

                    But dont dare say that Cotto was weight drained against Pac and mention that he moved to 154 and hasnt looked back you might get e-jumped by those clowns.

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                      #120
                      Originally posted by mikemurni
                      No one is dis*****g that it was Floyd's best win. It's just tainted because Chico didnt enter the ring in the right condition...
                      So now thats Floyds fault? Its not bro. The fight was a display of sheer elite talent. Floyd made Chico look like a kid.

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