How Would Pac do against Mosley's Conquerors?

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  • FerdinandMarcos
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    #11
    Originally posted by mikemurni
    You kiddin' me. The right hand that you are refering where from the counter attacks that JMM threw when Pac missed. But JMM was KD and suffered a very bad cut from those punches. Meaning JMM was getting tagged a lot as well. Now Mayorga threw looping hard punches, and still able to connect on Forrest to knock him out. How do you think Pac would do when he is a lot faster, accurate, and as a strong puncher than Mayorga was at that time..

    And FYI, Arum was not Zahir's promoter..Arum was the promoter of Morales at that time. He had no control of Pac's career at all in 2006..
    Sorry ass Clottey couldn't miss Pac with uppercuts....

    Forrest would have his head flying back like a Pez dispenser.

    Joshua threw 11 punches and had Manny looking like he fell down an elevator shaft.

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      #12
      Originally posted by 2Shotz
      Hey All,

      I'm wondering how Pac would've fared against Vernon, Winky, Cotto (ok, we know that one), and Mayweather -Mosley's conquerors in the ring.

      2001/02 Vernon Forrest was a rangy fighter with a great jab, solid right hand, and he knew how to fight clean and not-so-clean. How does Pac look against Vernon?

      Winky Wright was ducked by Oscar, dominated Trinidad, defeated a prime Vargas (let's be real), and was a tough defensive nut to crack. Would Pac had busted through that turtle shell defense? Would Wink's face resemble a catchers mitt by the middle rounds?

      Mayweather is, well, Mayweather. And we are all waiting to see if Pac and Floyd will get it on. In the meantime, no shame for Shane in coming up short against Floyd in the twilight of his career. Everyone knows their fight should've been back in 99/00.

      I am a fan of both Pac and Shane. No hating here. I feel Pac has been overhyped these past couple of years but it has to go with the territory of becoming a crossover star. I've followed Shane religiously since the late nineties, through thick and thin, and despite all the controversies, I still believe the man is a class act and athlete.

      I just think that in Shane's case, his 6 losses sound, on paper, much worse that they really are and I'm not convinced Pac would've fared much better against the remaining three, Vernon, Wink and Floyd.

      Cotto he would beat at any stage, Winky may be too big, at 147lbs Pacquiao beats him though, but I think Pacquiao's pressure, style could see him take a UD even at 154. Forrest, good jab, long rangy but Pacquiao is an excellent judge of distance and Pacquiao power would be too much for Forrest and Pacquiao would catch him.

      Pacquiao would beat Mayweather, he has the advantages where it matters, in speed, workrate, power, footwork and combination punches.

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      • FerdinandMarcos
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        #13
        Originally posted by D4thincarnation
        Cotto he would beat at any stage, Winky may be too big, at 147lbs Pacquiao beats him though, but I think Pacquiao's pressure, style could see him take a UD even at 154. Forrest, good jab, long rangy but Pacquiao is an excellent judge of distance and Pacquiao power would be too much for Forrest and Pacquiao would catch him.

        Pacquiao would beat Mayweather, he has the advantages where it matters, in speed, workrate, power, footwork and combination punches.
        Pac doesn't move his head and is wide open down the middle.

        If he could beat Floyd he would have signed the fight when he had a 5050 split and 14 days to de-juice.

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          #14
          Originally posted by FerdinandMarcos
          Pac doesn't move his head and is wide open down the middle.

          If he could beat Floyd he would have signed the fight when he had a 5050 split and 14 days to de-juice.
          Pacquiao does move his head, his body and his footwork never stop, always moving side to side and back and forth.

          Beside Mayweather doesn't have the power to trouble Pacquiao and will have to throw more than single, which Pacquiao will want, because the more Floyd throws the more open he will be.

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          • The Surgeon
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            #15
            Forrest is a tough one, his range, jab and right hand give Pac all the trouble he can handle

            Winky is a better fighter than Clottey for sure but he tucks up in his shell in the same way when under attack and thats what Manny does - attack! Attack with machine gun bursts. I think Pac takes it on poiunts but Wright would let him know he'd been in a fight UNLIKE Clottey

            Cotto Manny beat.

            Floyd i think beats Pacquaio

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            • FerdinandMarcos
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              #16
              Originally posted by D4thincarnation
              Pacquiao does move his head, his body and his footwork never stop, always moving side to side and back and forth.

              Beside Mayweather doesn't have the power to trouble Pacquiao and will have to throw more than single, which Pacquiao will want, because the more Floyd throws the more open he will be.
              Manny gets hit with the SAME punches over and over again because he doesn't move his head.

              Clottey has ZERO power and he had Manny looking like he fell down several flights of stairs.

              Floyd would land on Manny like rain on a tin roof.

              There is a reason Arum won't let this fight happen.

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                #17
                Originally posted by FerdinandMarcos
                Manny gets hit with the SAME punches over and over again because he doesn't move his head.

                Clottey has ZERO power and he had Manny looking like he fell down several flights of stairs.

                Floyd would land on Manny like rain on a tin roof.

                There is a reason Arum won't let this fight happen.

                Manny gave Clottey free shots to open him up, maybe he will do the same to Floyd, but when Clottey did throw punches he had to take some back.

                When Floyd throw he is open and there is no one better at picking a punch when the leathered is flying than Manny Pacquiao.

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                • mikemurni
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by FerdinandMarcos
                  Sorry ass Clottey couldn't miss Pac with uppercuts....

                  Forrest would have his head flying back like a Pez dispenser.

                  Joshua threw 11 punches and had Manny looking like he fell down an elevator shaft.
                  So you agree with me about Vernon because now you are gearing to a different discussion..

                  But lets look at Clottey.. Clottey was not throwing punches because he was waiting to counter fire until Pac stops throwing. Which is basically the way a fighter does when he implements a peek-a-boo style the way Winky and Abraham does. Pac is goin to win on decision because he will never stop throwing. That is of course if he allows the fighter to open up and punch to make it a fight which is what he did against Clottey..

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                  • FerdinandMarcos
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by D4thincarnation
                    Manny gave Clottey free shots to open him up, maybe he will do the same to Floyd, but when Clottey did throw punches he had to take some back.

                    When Floyd throw he is open and there is no one better at picking a punch when the leathered is flying than Manny Pacquiao.
                    You don't know ***** about boxing like most Pac fans.

                    Fanny is the one that is WIDE OPEN after he throws because he's so off-balance.

                    Manny did not give Clottey free shots you lousy moron..lol.

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                    • mikemurni
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by FerdinandMarcos
                      You don't know ***** about boxing like most Pac fans.

                      Fanny is the one that is WIDE OPEN after he throws because he's so off-balance.

                      Manny did not give Clottey free shots you lousy moron..lol.
                      Pac was fighting in the pocket which he does not do.. He does that in the Clottey fight so that Clottey would throw and be open for counters, instead of always covering up.

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