How Would Pac do against Mosley's Conquerors?

[2Shotz]

Hey All,

I'm wondering how Pac would've fared against Vernon, Winky, Cotto (ok, we know that one), and Mayweather -Mosley's conquerors in the ring.

2001/02 Vernon Forrest was a rangy fighter with a great jab, solid right hand, and he knew how to fight clean and not-so-clean. How does Pac look against Vernon?

Winky Wright was ducked by Oscar, dominated Trinidad, defeated a prime Vargas (let's be real), and was a tough defensive nut to crack. Would Pac had busted through that turtle shell defense? Would Wink's face resemble a catchers mitt by the middle rounds?

Mayweather is, well, Mayweather. And we are all waiting to see if Pac and Floyd will get it on. In the meantime, no shame for Shane in coming up short against Floyd in the twilight of his career. Everyone knows their fight should've been back in 99/00.

I am a fan of both Pac and Shane. No hating here. I feel Pac has been overhyped these past couple of years but it has to go with the territory of becoming a crossover star. I've followed Shane religiously since the late nineties, through thick and thin, and despite all the controversies, I still believe the man is a class act and athlete.

I just think that in Shane's case, his 6 losses sound, on paper, much worse that they really are and I'm not convinced Pac would've fared much better against the remaining three, Vernon, Wink and Floyd.

[educator06]

he would have got beaten by all of them...i mean all of them!!!!!!there is the coot argument; just look at the fight; a very questionable w for cotto...but it is what it is. pac would get his head taken off by vernon; laughed at by winky; and embarrassed by floyd

[educator06]

you see the pac fans stay outta this thread...too much truth!!!

[jrosales13]

Hey All,

I'm wondering how Pac would've fared against Vernon, Winky, Cotto (ok, we know that one), and Mayweather -Mosley's conquerors in the ring.

2001/02 Vernon Forrest was a rangy fighter with a great jab, solid right hand, and he knew how to fight clean and not-so-clean. How does Pac look against Vernon?

Winky Wright was ducked by Oscar, dominated Trinidad, defeated a prime Vargas (let's be real), and was a tough defensive nut to crack. Would Pac had busted through that turtle shell defense? Would Wink's face resemble a catchers mitt by the middle rounds?

Mayweather is, well, Mayweather. And we are all waiting to see if Pac and Floyd will get it on. In the meantime, no shame for Shane in coming up short against Floyd in the twilight of his career. Everyone knows their fight should've been back in 99/00.

I am a fan of both Pac and Shane. No hating here. I feel Pac has been overhyped these past couple of years but it has to go with the territory of becoming a crossover star. I've followed Shane religiously since the late nineties, through thick and thin, and despite all the controversies, I still believe the man is a class act and athlete.

I just think that in Shane's case, his 6 losses sound, on paper, much worse that they really are and I'm not convinced Pac would've fared much better against the remaining three, Vernon, Wink and Floyd.

No he was not.

[mikemurni]

he would have got beaten by all of them...i mean all of them!!!!!!there is the coot argument; just look at the fight; a very questionable w for cotto...but it is what it is. pac would get his head taken off by vernon; laughed at by winky; and embarrassed by floyd

Vernon Forrest lose to style-less brawler in Mayorga twice. In the first fight, he got KO'd. Even if you say that Mayorga was at his peak at that time, his style has remained the same.. Pac is a far better fighter, brawler than any version of Mayorga..

Wright is probably too big for Pac so that's more a 50/50 fight.. But he employs a peak-a-boo style.. And you know what happened to the last guy that Pac fought with that style.. The guy couldnt get off.

Mayweather is a fight that could have take place for a whatever reason 2 years ago. And that's a 50/50 fight as well. That's why there is a such a demand for that fight...

He already beat Cotto. Or more like Cotto was beaten up by Pac.

So there's your answer and stop treating this like its such a big deal..

[viperz007]

pac always lose on fantasy fights thats a fact

[BillyBoxing]

he would have got beaten by all of them...i mean all of them!!!!!!there is the coot argument; just look at the fight; a very questionable w for cotto...but it is what it is. pac would get his head taken off by vernon; laughed at by winky; and embarrassed by floyd

I'm not sure about Winky...

I think a high workrate and speed like Mannys beat Winky...Now Winky is a bigger fighter for real.

Manny did and will ever do better than Mosley against Cotto because Manny's style is all wrong for miguel.

I think Vernon beat Manny, I agree...probably Floyd too.

[$Bullsfam$]

I think Vernon gives him a much better challenge then people might think. I'd give Vernon a good shot in that fight but I would pick Pac.

I think Pac's style is all wrong for Winky even though I love Winky. Like somebody already said, speed and a high workrate give Winky problems. I think it'd look like Williams-Winky if Winky was smaller fighter that could even fight Pac.

Already beat Cotto, and Floyd takes Pac to school. Too good defensively.

[FerdinandMarcos]

Vernon Forrest lose to style-less brawler in Mayorga twice. In the first fight, he got KO'd. Even if you say that Mayorga was at his peak at that time, his style has remained the same.. Pac is a far better fighter, brawler than any version of Mayorga..

Wright is probably too big for Pac so that's more a 50/50 fight.. But he employs a peak-a-boo style.. And you know what happened to the last guy that Pac fought with that style.. The guy couldnt get off.

Mayweather is a fight that could have take place for a whatever reason 2 years ago. And that's a 50/50 fight as well. That's why there is a such a demand for that fight...

He already beat Cotto. Or more like Cotto was beaten up by Pac.

So there's your answer and stop treating this like its such a big deal..

If Pac couldn't deal with Morales' and JMM's right hands...he sure as hell couldn't deal w/those long right hand bombs from Forrest.

Arum wouldn't even let Pac fight Zahir Raheem...no way would he let Forrest kill his cash cow.

[mikemurni]

If Pac couldn't deal with Morales' and JMM's right hands...he sure as hell couldn't deal w/those long right hand bombs from Forrest.

Arum wouldn't even let Pac fight Zahir Raheem...no way would he let Forrest kill his cash cow.

You kiddin' me. The right hand that you are refering where from the counter attacks that JMM threw when Pac missed. But JMM was KD and suffered a very bad cut from those punches. Meaning JMM was getting tagged a lot as well. Now Mayorga threw looping hard punches, and still able to connect on Forrest to knock him out. How do you think Pac would do when he is a lot faster, accurate, and as a strong puncher than Mayorga was at that time..

And FYI, Arum was not Zahir's promoter..Arum was the promoter of Morales at that time. He had no control of Pac's career at all in 2006..