HBO to blame for Khan-Bradley falling apart. Greenburg needs to go!

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  • paulf
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    HBO to blame for Khan-Bradley falling apart. Greenburg needs to go!

    Really getting tired of this. Ocne again, HBO overpays their fighter, and because of it a huge fight is not made.

    Remember why Cotto-Berto fell apart? HBO had been paying Andre over a million dollars to fight bums, so the 2.whatever million dollar offer to fight Cotto wasn't high enough. Why take the risk for just a little more cash?

    Now, here were are with the same situation. HBO pays Bradley, who is not a draw or moneymaker, over a million dollars to fight another unknown (outside of St Louis), and also guarantees him another payday and HBO date in his next fight. Naturally, a unification with Khan is what everyone wants to see.

    But Bradley, he thinks that 1.3 million dollars just isn't fair! He just made that much to fight Devon Alexander, and will get a million or so to fight any old fighter on HBO in his next fight. So why take the same money to get into a risky unification fight, when he can fight someone easier and still get paid?

    After all, the fans can wait, right? If the fight happens, cool, if not; he still gets paid the big bucks by HBO, even if he can't fill a casino.

    So, you have megafights not happening because guys are getting paid too much, and you have guys that have accomplished absolutely NOTHING in their careers except high profile losses turning down title shots/paydays (Peterson), because they know HBO will still take care of them.

    This is not how the game is supposed to be played. HBO needs to hurry up and replace Ross Greenburg, because he has seriously fucked with the natural order of the boxing game.
    Last edited by paulf; 05-01-2011, 09:50 AM.
  • ny123
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    #2
    I was just about to make this same thread. Bradley isnt ducking Khan its HBO's fault with that dumb guarantee they made.

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    • AmericanEuro
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      #3
      Do you ever get death threats from ******s for dating that girl?

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      • Rome-By-Ko
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        #4
        Originally posted by paulf
        Really getting tired of this. Ocne again, HBO overpays their fighter, and because of it a huge fight is not made.

        Remember why Cotto-Berto fell apart? HBO had been paying Andre over a million dollars to fight bums, so the 2.whatever million dollar offer to fight Cotto wasn't high enough. Why take the risk for just a little more cash?

        Now, here were are with the same situation. HBO pays Bradley, who is not a draw or moneymaker, over a million dollars to fight another unknown (outside of St Louis), and also guarantees him another payday and HBO date in his next fight. Naturally, a unification with Khan is what everyone wants to see.

        But Bradley, he thinks that 1.3 million dollars just isn't fair! He just made that much to fight Devon Alexander, and will get a million or so to fight any old fighter on HBO in his next fight. So why take the same money to get into a risky unification fight, when he can fight someone easier and still get paid?

        After all, the fans can wait, right? If the fight happens, cool, if not; he still gets paid the big bucks by HBO, even if he can't fill a casino.

        So, you have megafights not happening because guys are getting payed too much, and you have guys that have accomplished absolutely NOTHING in their careers except high profile losses turning down title shots/paydays (Peterson), because they know HBO will still take care of them.

        This is not how the game is supposed to be played. HBO needs to hurry up and replace Ross Greenburg, because he has seriously fucked with the natural order of the boxing game.
        Agreed this is complete true..

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        • The Hammer
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          #5
          Good thread.

          Greenburg needs to be replaced, he is hurting the sport.

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          • BoxerDood
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            #6
            I agree to an extent. But how doesn't he deserve more money than that? If guys like Floyd and Cotto can get millions to fight guys like Baldomir or Gomez, why shouldn't Bradley get more than 1.3? He's beaten Vazquez, Witter, Holt, Campbell, Peterson and Alexander. That's an EXCELLENT resume. Khan's is good too.

            The mistake HBO made was overpaying these big guys, which is what gave the newer guys the money mindset. And they have every right to think so. So I agree with you there.
            Last edited by BoxerDood; 05-01-2011, 09:58 AM.

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            • Spacey1991
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              #7
              Originally posted by paulf
              Really getting tired of this. Ocne again, HBO overpays their fighter, and because of it a huge fight is not made.

              Remember why Cotto-Berto fell apart? HBO had been paying Andre over a million dollars to fight bums, so the 2.whatever million dollar offer to fight Cotto wasn't high enough. Why take the risk for just a little more cash?

              Now, here were are with the same situation. HBO pays Bradley, who is not a draw or moneymaker, over a million dollars to fight another unknown (outside of St Louis), and also guarantees him another payday and HBO date in his next fight. Naturally, a unification with Khan is what everyone wants to see.

              But Bradley, he thinks that 1.3 million dollars just isn't fair! He just made that much to fight Devon Alexander, and will get a million or so to fight any old fighter on HBO in his next fight. So why take the same money to get into a risky unification fight, when he can fight someone easier and still get paid?

              After all, the fans can wait, right? If the fight happens, cool, if not; he still gets paid the big bucks by HBO, even if he can't fill a casino.

              So, you have megafights not happening because guys are getting paid too much, and you have guys that have accomplished absolutely NOTHING in their careers except high profile losses turning down title shots/paydays (Peterson), because they know HBO will still take care of them.

              This is not how the game is supposed to be played. HBO needs to hurry up and replace Ross Greenburg, because he has seriously fucked with the natural order of the boxing game.
              I searched on Google why the fight fell apart and it put me onto a forum were they said practically the same thing. Basically they were saying something like HBO offered £3million for Alexander vs Bradley and is now offering the same for Khan vs Bradley which is a bigger fight, so Bradley feels he deserves more than what he was offered before or some **** like that? Might be wrong though.

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              • Ray*
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                #8
                I think because HBO were soooo eager to make the unification between Bradley-Alexander they made the wrong promises, Overpaying boxers are one of the reasons fights dont get made quickly anymore, To be frank i do not blame the boxers when this sort of situation occurs because they get hit in the head for a living, Boxing is brutal...

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                • BetterCallSaul
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                  #9
                  This is true.

                  However, if the shoe was on the other foot, Khan would be expected to sign the contract and would be harshly criticised if he refused.

                  Most of the posters on this site are hypocrites of the highest order.

                  One rule for one. Another rule for another.

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                  • Spacey1991
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                    #10
                    People on here claimed that it was down to the purse split but I dont know what it is... maybe its not so much the purse split but the amount thats been offered by HBO in general because it aint any more than what hes usually offered and this is a much bigger better fight that the public wants to see... it aint right I know, but still a point (I still dont know what split of the money Bradley was actually offered though).

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