Why do people presume Khan is going to make huge PPV money against Bradley?

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  • Charmander
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    #31
    Originally posted by Check
    Look this is how I would break it down, since you guys are harping on numbers. If Khan/McCloskey did 60,000 in primetime and McCloskey is a big name over there then give Bradley 75% of all ppv number above the 60,000 mark. You guys are so certain that Bradley makes no income for the fight so there is no risk then, right? The way I look at it is Khan didn't gain fans from the McCloskey fight and since it's at 4am the numbers after 60,000 would equate to Bradley and what Bradley brings to the ring(record and skill).
    How many PPV's has Bradley had in the UK?
    How many has he had in the US?

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      #32
      Originally posted by jrosales13
      Maybe you have a point. But, do you believe it's safe to say that Khan-Bradley would do better PPV numbers in the U.K than what Khan-McCloskey did?
      Khan-McCloskey was switched from Sky to the lesser known Primetime PPV at the last minute, which obviously affected PPV sales. Khan-Bradley will most likely be on Sky and thus get better exposure and more sales. If both had been on SKY PPV, im fairly certain the numbers wouldnt differ that greatly. McCloskey himself probably sold a good number of PPVs

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        #33
        Look don't get me wrong, Bradley will help sell the fight, but without Khan, he has no PPV.

        Now Khan can sell a crappy fight, which Mcclowskey was, and get 60k on a crappy channel with a lack of marketing.

        Maybe he can get 200k at 4 AM, I don't know, but it doesn't mean he will be making millions.

        David Haye and Hatton sold big, Yes, but not Khan on that huge scale just yet. He's a JMM type fighter here.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Charmander
          I wouldn't say it is safe. Maidana was intriuging because he had KO power and Khan has a weak chin. Bradley doesn;t pose the KO threat as Maidana does.

          Doing over 60K at 4AM isn't easy. I would like to know Maidana numbers for sure.
          Fair enough, I think it would do more so than what McCloskey did. And, if that's the case then yes Bradley deserves some PPV.

          Is Bradley not getting any percentage from the PPV in the U.K? None? Zero?

          Maybe what they should negotiation is that if the PPV buys pass a certain number(lets say 60k) than Bradley deserves like whatever like 25% of the PPV buys. But, if it doesn't pass 60k than Khan gets 100% of the PPV buys. I think that would be fair for both guys.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Charmander
            How many PPV's has Bradley had in the UK?
            How many has he had in the US?
            What does that have anything to do with it? You guys keep saying that Bradley brings nothing to the table......so, there is no way a 4am PPV will outdraw a 10pm PPV against a popular fighter from Ireland right? Especially since Khan looked like **** in it. It only makes sense that the numbers above 60,000 would be because of Bradley and the importance of the fight, which is two things that are correlated with Bradley himself.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
              Khan-McCloskey was switched from Sky to the lesser known Primetime PPV at the last minute, which obviously affected PPV sales. Khan-Bradley will most likely be on Sky and thus get better exposure and more sales. If both had been on SKY PPV, im fairly certain the numbers wouldnt differ that greatly. McCloskey himself probably sold a good number of PPVs
              Why being switched in the last minute affect the PPV sales?

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                #37
                Originally posted by jrosales13
                Fair enough, I think it would do more so than what McCloskey did. And, if that's the case then yes Bradley deserves some PPV.

                Is Bradley not getting any percentage from the PPV in the U.K? None? Zero?

                Maybe what they should negotiation is that if the PPV buys pass a certain number(lets say 60k) than Bradley deserves like whatever like 25% of the PPV buys. But, if it doesn't pass 60k than Khan gets 100% of the PPV buys. I think that would be fair for both guys.
                I don't know on the situation really. Bradley should get some PPV for sure.

                The thing is, it coulkd get 300k maybe, but who knows. July is when school breaks up, people go on holiday etc... and 4am obviously makes it hard.

                Boxing is not big in the UK right now, and 4AM starts is tough for us. I wouldn't say it is safe, but I would estimate 200k, but I would need to see Maidana's numbers.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Check
                  What does that have anything to do with it? You guys keep saying that Bradley brings nothing to the table......so, there is no way a 4am PPV will outdraw a 10pm PPV against a popular fighter from Ireland right? Especially since Khan looked like **** in it. It only makes sense that the numbers above 60,000 would be because of Bradley and the importance of the fight, which is two things that are correlated with Bradley himself.
                  Bradley brings nothing more than Judah IMO.

                  Judah could sell just as much as Khan.

                  I would imagine that 200k could be achieved, but it is very hard to tell.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Charmander
                    I don't know on the situation really. Bradley should get some PPV for sure.

                    The thing is, it coulkd get 300k maybe, but who knows. July is when school breaks up, people go on holiday etc... and 4am obviously makes it hard.

                    Boxing is not big in the UK right now, and 4AM starts is tough for us. I wouldn't say it is safe, but I would estimate 200k, but I would need to see Maidana's numbers.
                    I get what you saying.

                    Maybe they should have a like a number where if they reach it Bradley gets a percentage of the PPV buys. But, if they fail to hit that mark than Bradley gets zero of the PPV money.

                    I really think that would be fair to both fighters.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by jrosales13
                      Why being switched in the last minute affect the PPV sales?
                      Basically, it hurt sales a lot, but sky had already done a lot of promotion so everyone knew the fight was going ahead, plus people in Ireland wanted to watch McCloskey fight Khan (same tv network)

                      Sky will probably pick this fight up, but if they dont and primetime show it, it will bomb - badly. Primetime's idea of promoting a fight is sticking a small add in a newspaper. Add in the fact its on at 4am.

                      If sky show it they'll hype it up big time and it should do OK.

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