Agree Or Disagree. Floyd Mayweather Has A Great Chin?

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  • studentofthegam
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    #101
    Originally posted by trainhard_187
    It would be tested more if he wasnt fighting lower weight fighters the past few years..

    But lets look at his last 4 fights.

    Shane ROCKED that Chin, makes you wonder what Cotto, Marg, Clottey, and Pac would of done if Floyd fought more Welterweights..

    Hatton landed some shots, had Floyd in trouble early but Floyd maintained his balance...

    Marquez, didnt have a chance against Floyd PERIOD..

    Delahoya landed some good shots but not flush ones..
    shane punches harder than all of them at 147

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    • trainhard_187
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      #102
      Originally posted by studentofthegam
      shane punches harder than all of them at 147
      Like I said it would be tested more if he fought more Welterweights, but with your statement, its clear why he strayed away from most of them..

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      • Steak
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        #103
        I wouldnt say its great, but I certainly wouldnt call it bad either.

        Id say above average. like a B on a grade scale.

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        • BallisticAffair
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          #104
          Originally posted by No Ceilings
          I recall him exchanging with Oscar in the last minute of the 12th and taking a HUGE bomb right on the jaw with his mouth open and he just took it. Dude has a very good beard imo.
          LOL, I remember that. Almost cited it, except it was right at the end of the fight when Floyd was trading for kicks and it just seemed too 'fun' to mention in seriousness...but it was a legit bomb that Floyd basically gave Oscar IIRC.

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          • BattlingNelson
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            #105
            Originally posted by Spacey1991
            Thats right, but if what I said is the case, then he might not have fell off balance if Judah hadn't stood on his foot when the punch landed, so by definition the referee would have been right to not call it a KD because it would have been unfair to call it a KD.



            But would he had done it if Judah hadn't stood on his foot? This is the reason why standing on somebodys foot is illigal in Boxing, in this case it was an accident, but it wouldn't have been classed as a KD because the standing on his foot caused him to go off balance more.

            If somebody stands on your foot and pushes you and you fell over, just because you fell over doesn't mean you would have done if he hadn't stood on your foot.



            He is right in what he is saying though, whether you like it or not.
            Originally posted by BallisticAffair
            If the official feels something other than a punch was the cause of a fighter touching down, he has a license to use his discretion/common sense and not call a knockdown.

            There are angles which clearly show that Judah standing on Floyd's foot caused him to lose balance and touch down momentarily. BattlingNelson has seen these; it's just that they don't help his agenda, so you'd never see him post them.

            Definition of a KD:

            A knockdown occurs when a boxer, after being hit by his opponent: 1) touches the ring floor with some part of his body other than the feet; 2) has any part of his body outside the ropes; 3) is hanging on the ropes helplessly; or 4) is judged to be in a semi-conscious state and unable to continue fighting.
            So the question is whether Floyd was hit or not before he touched the canvas.

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            • BallisticAffair
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              #106
              Originally posted by BattlingNelson
              Definition of a KD:

              So the question is whether Floyd was hit or not before he touched the canvas.
              Looking away from Floyd-Judah, let's cite an example of a referee using discretion wisely in a 'knockdown' incident.

              Round 3 of Berto-Urango. Berto lands one of those dorky uppercuts of doom; as Berto connects, the fighters' legs cross awkwardly causing Urango to stumble and to fall back onto his ass a moment later. Although Urango goes down almost immediately after being hit, it clearly wasn't the punch that put him down.

              Good judgement call by the official.


              Organizations' rules typically follow thusly (I sample from the WBA here),

              "A boxer shall deemed to be "down" when any part of his body, except his
              feet, makes contact with the floor of the ring, or when he hangs helplessly
              over the ropes as a result of a legal blow according to the judgment of the
              referee, who is the only authorized person to determine when a boxer has
              suffered a knockdown."


              (this from the WBO)

              "A contestant shall be considered down when any part of his body, other than his feet, is on the floor, or if he is hanging helplessly over the ropes, and only is held up by the ropes, as the result of a legal blow. Only the Referee may determine whether there has been a knockdown."


              ^^ The referee has a license to use discretion on calling a knockdown. It's on his discretion. He may make a bad judgement call, but he's entitled to make one in the moment.








              Besides which, the Floyd-Judah incident is irrelevant to the topic; it was a balance knockdown and doesn't speak much at all to the question of Floyd's punch-resistance. You trolled. Your boring argument simply doesn't belong in this thread.

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              • SplitSecond
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                #107
                ^ did you really go through the effort of making and uploading a youtube video just to say "BattlingNelson is Cheesy"?

                sht he must be doin somethin right

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                • BallisticAffair
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by Blah!
                  ^ did you really go through the effort of making and uploading a youtube video just to say "BattlingNelson is Cheesy"?

                  sht he must be doin somethin right
                  Do you know how long it took to make and upload that?

                  Less time than it would take you to get up, go take a leak and come back. Seriously.

                  You must be an incapable, awed ****** if you think it required any more effort than a regular post.

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                  • SplitSecond
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by BallisticAffair
                    Do you know how long it took to make and upload that?

                    Less time than it would take you to get up, go take a leak and come back. Seriously.

                    You must be an incapable, awed ****** if you think it required any more effort than a regular post.
                    opening up paint or w/e the hell you used, typing that crap, saving it, and uploading, then having to wait till the video renders, yea, posting this takes just as long

                    i dont know if you ever heard of it, but there's this thing called life, you should cop one

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                    • BallisticAffair
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by Blah!
                      opening up paint or w/e the hell you used, typing that crap, saving it, and uploading, then having to wait till the video renders, yea, posting this takes just as long

                      i dont know if you ever heard of it, but there's this thing called life, you should cop one
                      You're obviously not very computer literate. Maybe it does seem like an awesome, time-consuming task to you, but you can't judge everyone by your luddite standards.

                      Hey, man, there's video on that account taken by me with some friends at a fight. Where can I view any evidence of your "life"? Ohhyeah, all over this board, because NSB and Mayweather topics are all you have.




                      I apologize for raising my posting style above the usual dry, banal standards for the purposes of entertainment.

                      Wait. No, I don't. I love annoying humorless goons like you.

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