Comments Thread For: Mayweather Sr: Floyd Jr. Will Not Miss Pacquiao vs Mosley

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If the fight take place at 147, then you can criticize them all you want. Until then, just sit tight and wait until words are official. I do agree that some of their rules only applies when they suits Manny's own needs.

Fair call.

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My previous challenge was to *****s and since *****s haven't responded, I extended Pac-Haters to answer my post... Please do the imposible and argue the facts that can't be argued....

Did I stomp the ***** Extra Test lovers??? I guess I did... Here is what the *****s have no answer for...

Simple question to all *****s... If based on what you see Floyd would kill Pac, which means the Pac you guys think that is on PEDs why do you need EXTRA test???? Why not fight under the same testing policy from 1958 to present? Why not fight under the same testing policy that Gay-Boy did for the first 40 fights of his career???? Common sense, if you think based on what you see you would thrash Pacquiao, why not just beat him and collect $50mil and pay your tax debts and prevent more repos and liens??? It just doesn't make sense....

*****s are FN idiots because Gay-Boy fought 40 times without Extra Test!!! So its not a matter of clean but how clean. Keep in mind Gay-Boy fought 40 times from 1997 to 2009 without extra test. Keep in mind the NSAC takes blood test for the pre and post fight physicals. This is why you hear about people being suspended and fined for PEDs in boxing all the time...
Does the MMA change their testing policies for big fights??? Does the MLB change their testing polices for the World Series ? Does the NBA change their testing policies for the Finals? Does the NFL change their policies for the Super Bowl ? Did Ali vs. Foreman have extra test? Did Leonard vs. Hearns have extra test? Did Chavez vs. Taylor have extra test? Did Tyson vs. Holyfield have extra test? Did Trinidad vs. Hopkins have extra test? Gay-Boy vs. Corrales must have had extra test right? I'm sure Gay-Boy vs. Golden ***** had extra test right? Did Williams vs. Martinez have extra test? Surely Klitschko vs. Haye have extra test in the contract right? Mayweather Promotions I'm sure they are protecting their fighters that's why none of the fights Floyd's fighters fought had extra test.... The whole extra testing issue is a farce that is why the only time you hear of extra testing in boxing is for Gay-Boy vs. Pacquiao. Gay-Boy doesn't even ask for extra test for the fights under Mayweather Promotions. Doesn't he want to protect his fighters like Vargas not to mention his quest to clean up the sport. Shouldn't he say all fights under Mayweather Promotions will have extra test, leading by example... Only an FN Idiot would refute the FACTS I just laid out...

*****s are just like Donald Trump and Birthers. Facts and common sense means nothing to them.

How about you keep all of those " pre-owned " excuses to yourself. Manny himself gave 7 different absurd excuses, he don't need any help from you.

1.) Mayflower is not interested in " cleaning up the sport "..... that comment was opportunistic grand-standing, and is a load of horse-****

2.) Mayflower is not interested in drug testing his previous opponents

3.) Mayflower just wants Manny to take the tests, because he suspects that he is using PED's

4.) How many of Mayflower's previous opponents gained nearly 15lbs of muscle within 9 months whilst ripping through 3 divisions gaining speed and power along the way and all the while refusing random blood tests?

Yep, really would like an answer to that last question.

For ***'s sake Manny, stop juicing and take the fkn test.

The fact that Manny will not clear this up by taking a simple blood test is absurd, but what is even more absurd is the fact that you think your hero Manny is well within his rights to refuse a simple testing proceedure..... you will not question why, and you will faithfully front up to defend him by cranking up the old "excuse machine".

What a fkn absurd situation.

I can't believe that Manny is content to put his fan's in that position.

And I cannot believe that his fan's are content with being put in that position.

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The point is.....

Regardless as to whether I believe that Manny is juicing or not, ANY questions or allegations could so easily be cleared up..... if Pac were clean.

A truly absurd situation

Too absurd to be incidental, it should never have gotten this far.

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How about you keep all of those " pre-owned " excuses to yourself. Manny himself gave 7 different absurd excuses, he don't need any help from you.

1.) Mayflower is not interested in " cleaning up the sport "..... that comment was opportunistic grand-standing, and is a load of horse-****

2.) Mayflower is not interested in drug testing his previous opponents

3.) Mayflower just wants Manny to take the tests, because he suspects that he is using PED's

4.) How many of Mayflower's previous opponents gained nearly 15lbs of muscle within 9 months whilst ripping through 3 divisions gaining speed and power along the way and all the while refusing random blood tests?

Yep, really would like an answer to that last question.

For ***'s sake Manny, stop juicing and take the fkn test.

The fact that Manny will not clear this up by taking a simple blood test is absurd, but what is even more absurd is the fact that you think your hero Manny is well within his rights to refuse a simple testing proceedure..... you will not question why, and you will faithfully front up to defend him by cranking up the old "excuse machine".

What a fkn absurd situation.

I can't believe that Manny is content to put his fan's in that position.

And I cannot believe that his fan's are content with being put in that position.

Duran moved up in weight and kept his power from 135 to 168. Pac hasn't fought under 122 in 8 years. Jordan put on 20 pounds of muscle in one off season and so did Kobe... So we know guys can put on 20 pounds of muscle from age 23 to 31... Anyway you still didn't answer why should Manny take extra test not mandated by the NSAC. Should Kobe be able to ask Lebron for extra test??? And if asked for extra test does that mean Lebron is dirty because he ask Kobe why are you asking me and shouldn't this be comming from the league.

I have been asked twice to let a cop search my car and I declined both times. One time we waited 20 minutes for the dog to arrive. The cop asked why go through all that if you were clean and I asked why did you ask to search if I had no warrants and my registration came back good... A little of topic but its related. How many other fights in boxing have extra test???? If you multipied them by 1,000 the sum would be 0.... Funny but I'm still waiting for a reasonable response... Not a ***** battle cry, not to mention Manny agreed to Floyd terms like a year ago... When Arum and HBO caught Floyd's team in a lie...

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Floyd keeps it on the down loww... Nobody has to knowww... He loves 50,s bumm....

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Ah come on lets be serious, we all know that Marquez never stood a chance against Floyd, not even against Floyd at 135, styles make fights and Marquezs style is all wrong for Floyd, it'll be to easy.
Now why won't Pacquiao fight Martinez, is a good question?

are you trying to imply that Floyd cherrypicked JMM?

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Duran moved up in weight and kept his power from 135 to 168. Pac hasn't fought under 122 in 8 years. Jordan put on 20 pounds of muscle in one off season and so did Kobe... So we know guys can put on 20 pounds of muscle from age 23 to 31... Anyway you still didn't answer why should Manny take extra test not mandated by the NSAC. Should Kobe be able to ask Lebron for extra test??? And if asked for extra test does that mean Lebron is dirty because he ask Kobe why are you asking me and shouldn't this be comming from the league.

I have been asked twice to let a cop search my car and I declined both times. One time we waited 20 minutes for the dog to arrive. The cop asked why go through all that if you were clean and I asked why did you ask to search if I had no warrants and my registration came back good... A little of topic but its related. How many other fights in boxing have extra test???? If you multipied them by 1,000 the sum would be 0.... Funny but I'm still waiting for a reasonable response... Not a ***** battle cry, not to mention Manny agreed to Floyd terms like a year ago... When Arum and HBO caught Floyd's team in a lie...

Still, firing up the old excuse machine

Stop being so gullible man.

Team Pacquiao gave a total of 7 ridiculous excuses why Manny would not undertake random blood tests - which is a fkn joke - requiring 7 different excuses means that none of them were genuine, Manny just didn't want to take random blood tests, simple as that......

Dude..... which one of those 7 ridiculous excuses did you believe ?

I dare you to tell me.

I am going to make a statement, and there is absolutely nothing that you, nor Manny, can do about it..... because Pac will not take the test and prove the he is clean.....

Manny Pacquiao is a dirty steroid cheat !!

Now, whether I actually believe that statement to be true or not, the fact that Manny will not clear this up by taking a simple blood test is absurd, but what is even more absurd is the fact that you think your hero Manny is well within his rights to refuse a simple testing proceedure..... you will not question why, and you will faithfully defend him by winding up the old "excuse machine".

What a fkn absurd situation.

I can't believe that Manny is content to put his fan's in that position.

And I cannot believe that his fan's are content with being put in that position.

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are you trying to imply that Floyd cherrypicked JMM?

How is that possible when Juan Manuel Marquez called out Floyd?

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Still, firing up the old excuse machine

Stop being so gullible man.

Team Pacquiao gave a total of 7 ridiculous excuses why Manny would not undertake random blood tests - which is a fkn joke - requiring 7 different excuses means that none of them were genuine, Manny just didn't want to take random blood tests, simple as that......

Dude..... which one of those 7 ridiculous excuses did you believe ?

I dare you to tell me.

I am going to make a statement, and there is absolutely nothing that you, nor Manny, can do about it..... because Pac will not take the test and prove the he is clean.....

Manny Pacquiao is a dirty steroid cheat !!

Now, whether I actually believe that statement to be true or not, the fact that Manny will not clear this up by taking a simple blood test is absurd, but what is even more absurd is the fact that you think your hero Manny is well within his rights to refuse a simple testing proceedure..... you will not question why, and you will faithfully defend him by winding up the old "excuse machine".

What a fkn absurd situation.

I can't believe that Manny is content to put his fan's in that position.

And I cannot believe that his fan's are content with being put in that position.

Nobody but Gay-Boy has asked Manny to take an extra test... Not any other boxer not the NSAC not the TSAC not the WBO. NSAC already has the right to randomly test if they so choose. But, only *****s think that the NSAC and the boxing organizations and Floyd's baby momma and the IRS are all helping Pac and conspiring against Floyd. Your question should be why doesn't Manny do what Floyd wants, extra test. You do know what extra means right.... Second Manny agreed to Gay-Boy's terms a year ago. I wouldn't have, but Manny did. In the hood we call that calling your bluff or pulling your Hoe Card!!! Manny agreed to the terms and came to the table and Gay-Boy hasn't agreed to fight.. Gay-Boy's team said Arum was lying and then HBO said, actually team Gay-Boy was lying. The fight was being negotiated.

Again my question, how many other fights currently or in the past 50 years, or Floyd's first 40 fights had or have extra test??? Can you asy ZERO. Plus like I said Manny agreed to Gay-Boy's terms a year ago... So actually the testing issue is off the table. Only *****s bring it up. The media doesn't anymore because Pac agreed to the terms a year ago. Case CLOSED!!!!!

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Nobody but Gay-Boy has asked Manny to take an extra test... Not any other boxer not the NSAC not the TSAC not the WBO. NSAC already has the right to randomly test if they so choose. But, only *****s think that the NSAC and the boxing organizations and Floyd's baby momma and the IRS are all helping Pac and conspiring against Floyd. Your question should be why doesn't Manny do what Floyd wants, extra test. You do know what extra means right.... Second Manny agreed to Gay-Boy's terms a year ago. I wouldn't have, but Manny did. In the hood we call that calling your bluff or pulling your Hoe Card!!! Manny agreed to the terms and came to the table and Gay-Boy hasn't agreed to fight.. Gay-Boy's team said Arum was lying and then HBO said, actually team Gay-Boy was lying. The fight was being negotiated.

Again my question, how many other fights currently or in the past 50 years, or Floyd's first 40 fights had or have extra test??? Can you asy ZERO. Plus like I said Manny agreed to Gay-Boy's terms a year ago... So actually the testing issue is off the table. Only *****s bring it up. The media doesn't anymore because Pac agreed to the terms a year ago. Case CLOSED!!!!!

But all of the boxers also said that they would take the tests. Why couldn't Manny if it meant that it would get Floyd in the ring? If Manny accepted it when they were both at the table and Floyd made another excuse or another demand, then! we would know that Floyd didn't want the fight but it was the other way around. Team Manny made all of the excuses. Thus making Manny scared to fight.

Schaefer believes that Arum's position of leaving it up to the commission is him "moving the goal post."

"The pressure is on Pacquiao," he said. "They keep moving the goal post like they did with the $10 million weight penalty [if either fighter is over the contract maximum 147 pounds], which we agreed to. They didn't think we would accept that. When we did, they had to find something else to make into a problem. So now they're saying it's up to the commission instead of wanting to negotiate the drug testing with us. I don't want to hear that if the fight breaks up it was because of us. When they came to us with a $10 million weight penalty, they didn't expect us to say yes. They thought we'd say no. So when we said yes, they had to come up with something else. Now we're off USADA, and they are going to come and say only urine testing if that's what the commission says. It's really frustrating.


http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=4772853

Looks like Pac had all of the excuses to me.