Does Ali's fight with Terrell tell us how he'd handle the Klitschkos?

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  • physiker
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    #41
    Originally posted by hweightblogger
    Hey, this is a boxing forum. Spare us some American politics 50 years ago.

    Hey, how about me claiming that Wladimir Klitschko is the greatest boxer of all time because he dodged some draft in the Soviet Union?


    *sniff*sniff*

    And you know that Clay won only because of a technicality, don't you?
    Still won't tell us how old you are or if you hate people of color.

    And the Vietnam War is relevant here because that is why (his refusal to fight the bogus war) they stripped Ali of the title. And you should know that.

    Or do you, and just say any nonsense, to look at your words on a screen?

    Does anyone go to your blog? I sure won't.

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    • physiker
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      #42
      Originally posted by hweightblogger
      When Clay was boxing sub-200 lbs he was fast. But that weight class is called CRUISER. And compared to nowadays' cruisers he IS NOTHING SPECIAL.


      Where did I lie?


      You can call me son, when I can call you grandmother.

      "of color"? Is that some American term?

      It's interesting that you don't want to comprehend that there are people who simply think Clay was nothing special. You immediately assume that this must be some racist thingy.
      Just about everything you wrote on this thread are lies or distortions.

      Most boxing experts have Ali as #1 or #2 HW of all time. You should know that. Of course, who are all of them to compare with you?

      You have a blog!

      And how old are you?

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      • hweightblogger
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        #43
        Originally posted by physiker
        Still won't tell us how old you are or if you hate people of color.
        From which of my statements do you conclude that I don't like blacks? Huh?

        Originally posted by physiker
        And the Vietnam War is relevant here because that is why (his refusal to fight the bogus war) they stripped Ali of the title. And you should know that.
        How is the stripping of the title relevant to this thread ("Terrell compared to the Klitschkos"). Please elaborate.

        Originally posted by physiker
        Or do you, and just say any nonsense, to look at your words on a screen?
        It's so funny you mention "racism" and my blog. Because I have there a nice collection of near identical reproaches like you use them now. Hey, I even have a blog article called "Criticizing Ali is racism". It was one of my first articles. It's about exactly such people like you.

        Does anyone go to your blog? I sure won't.
        Another of my first articles was "This is the most ******ed blog ever and I won't bother to read it!"

        You AliFans are soooo predictable. Every time.

        Just google for "muhammad ali racism", you will find me at some of the top positions.
        Last edited by hweightblogger; 04-29-2011, 01:59 AM.

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        • CubanGuyNYC
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          #44
          I don't think the Terrell fight compares favorably for Ali against the Klitschkos any more than the Julius Long (7'1") fight compared favorably for Odlanier Solis.

          I'll say this: the best fighter either Klitschko has fought, by far, is Lennox Lewis. Even if you buy into the whole "Vitali was up on the cards" notion, you have to admit that Klitschko had all he could handle in that fight. Ali was a greater, smarter fighter than Lennox; he would've found the right game plan to beat the K brothers, and he had the tools to implement it. Ali would've boxed his way to an interesting, exciting UD victory over Wlad and Vit.

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          • Forza
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            #45
            If you aren't a fan of Ali you're a racist? That's silly.

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            • hweightblogger
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              #46
              Originally posted by Forza
              If you aren't a fan of Ali you're a racist? That's silly.
              Believe it or not. I even encountered the opinion that merely claiming that Ali would LOSE against the Klitschkos is already racism.

              It's actually funny considering that Clay himself was one of the most outspoken racists of all time. He even held a speech at a KKK rally where he advocated racial separation. Hey, he was even for the death penalty if a black woman would mess around with a white guy.

              It's UTTERLY BIZARRE to be accused of racism by a Clay fan.
              Last edited by hweightblogger; 04-28-2011, 02:43 PM.

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              • physiker
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                #47
                Originally posted by hweightblogger
                From which of my statements do you conclude that I don't like blacks? Huh?


                How is the stripping of the title relevant to this thread ("Terrell compared to the Klitschkos"). Please elaborate.


                It's so funny you mention "racism" and my blog. Because I have there a nice collection of near identical reproaches like you use them now. Hey, I even have a blog article called "Criticizing Ali is racism". It was one of my first articles. It's about exactly such people like you.

                You AliFans are soooo predictable. Every time.

                Just google for "muhammad ali racism", you will find me at some of the top positions.
                No one is going to oyur blog. We are glad that you are good at lies and distortions and race baiting and flase debating tactics. Maybe you trolltoget people to go to your blog all day and night. FOr whatpurpose.

                Like I wrote most boxing experts have Ali as #1 or # 2 HW of all time. So who goes with your warped opinion?

                Not thinking Ali is the greatest HW is not racist.
                But the things you have written above gave yourself away completely. Like who the first M. Ali was and who the the American Cassius Clay was. Completely irrelvant and only prove your racism.

                The man legally changed his name in 1964. You have given yourself away here.

                And you don't have the kihones to say you've shown your true colors.

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                • physiker
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by hweightblogger
                  From which of my statements do you conclude that I don't like blacks? Huh?


                  How is the stripping of the title relevant to this thread ("Terrell compared to the Klitschkos"). Please elaborate.


                  It's so funny you mention "racism" and my blog. Because I have there a nice collection of near identical reproaches like you use them now. Hey, I even have a blog article called "Criticizing Ali is racism". It was one of my first articles. It's about exactly such people like you.

                  You AliFans are soooo predictable. Every time.

                  Just google for "muhammad ali racism", you will find me at some of the top positions.
                  No one is going to oyur blog. We are glad that you are good at lies and distortions and race baiting and flase debating tactics. Maybe you trolltoget people to go to your blog all day and night. FOr whatpurpose.

                  Like I wrote most boxing experts have Ali as #1 or # 2 HW of all time. So who goes with your warped opinion?

                  Not thinking Ali is the greatest HW is not racist.
                  But the things you have written above gave yourself away completely. Like who the first M. Ali was and who the the American Cassius Clay was. Completely irrelvant and only prove your racism.

                  The man legally changed his name in 1964. You have given yourself away here.

                  And you don't have the kihones to say you've shown your true colors.

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                  • physiker
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by hweightblogger
                    From which of my statements do you conclude that I don't like blacks? Huh?


                    How is the stripping of the title relevant to this thread ("Terrell compared to the Klitschkos"). Please elaborate.


                    It's so funny you mention "racism" and my blog. Because I have there a nice collection of near identical reproaches like you use them now. Hey, I even have a blog article called "Criticizing Ali is racism". It was one of my first articles. It's about exactly such people like you.

                    You AliFans are soooo predictable. Every time.

                    Just google for "muhammad ali racism", you will find me at some of the top positions.
                    No one is going to your blog. We are glad that you are good at lies and distortions and race baiting and false debating tactics. Maybe you troll to get people to go to your blog all day and night. For what purpose.

                    Like I wrote most boxing experts have Ali as #1 or # 2 HW of all time. So who goes with your warped opinion?

                    Not thinking Ali is the greatest HW is not racist.

                    But the things you have written above gave yourself away completely. Like who the first M. Ali was and who the the American Cassius Clay was. Completely irrelvant and only prove your racism.

                    The man legally changed his name in 1964. You have given yourself away here.

                    And you don't have the kihones to say you've shown your true colors.
                    Last edited by physiker; 04-28-2011, 02:47 PM.

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                    • hweightblogger
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by physiker
                      No one is going to oyur blog.
                      Very good. That way you won't see how I will post some of your statements as examples of "Clay delusion". I don't know yet whether I will cite you in the article "Criticizing Ali is racism" or in the article "Muhammad Ali's megalomania" where I describe how Clay's megalomania attracts certain kind of people who believe his grandiosities. Gotta see where it fits best.

                      Originally posted by physiker
                      We are glad that you are good at lies
                      Show me 1 lie that I posted. I asked you already above. I am still waiting.

                      Like I wrote most boxing experts have Ali as #1 or # 2 HW of all time.
                      Most AMERICAN experts. And most UKRAINIAN experts consider Klitschkos the greatest.

                      Originally posted by physiker
                      Not thinking Ali is the greatest HW is not racist.
                      But the things you have written above gave yourself away completely. Like who the first M. Ali was and who the the American Cassius Clay was. Completely irrelvant and only prove your racism.
                      And where exactly is the racism? Come on. Make me laugh. You won't get out of it now. Especially since I think that George Foreman is the best boxer of the 1970s.

                      Originally posted by physiker
                      And you don't have the kihones to say you've shown your true colors.
                      Are you calling me a colored person?

                      (BTW you STILL didn't answer how the Vietnam war is relevant to this thread here)
                      Last edited by hweightblogger; 04-28-2011, 03:19 PM.

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