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Originally posted by gapo View PostIts great to be pacquiao right now. Cowards rather not fight him and let his *****s do that for him while he is is on so called vacation. HAHAHAHAHHA
Who else do you have in fighting retirement fighters? all are still fighting currently or are active still. The only one that retired so far is the one that did not get in the ring with pacquaio.
"Shane called me earlier [Monday] and said that's it, he's had it," Shaefer said. "He's not waiting around anymore. He said, 'This guy [Pacquiao] is obviously scared of me. So let's move on.' Sugar Shane Mosley's career has not been built around Pacquiao. He already has a legacy of greatness. But eventually a Mayweather or Cotto or Pacquiao will need him. That day will come."
Roach said that though a “Mosley fight is probably the most exciting because they both like to fight,” it's all about making the fight on even terms.
"I have to protect my fighter,” said Roach, who administered the terms for Pacquiao and Oscar De La Hoya last year. “I spoke to Shane and told him that we would fight him at 142. He said he can’t make that weight.”
Mosley asked why not 147, as Manny/Oscar was set at 147? Roach said that Mosley is not De La Hoya in terms of setting a weight handicap.
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Originally posted by GRUSTLER View PostHahahahaha..... Floyd beat Shane when Pac didn't want none of him.....
You Pac fans are funny & blind on purpose because you are too caught up with Manny. Have the nerve to call people "*****s" when all of this proof on the fraudness of Pac's reign is right there in front of your faces. Should be a sin for any Pac fan to call anybody out about having a fighter as an idol because if Manny threw a grenade into the special Olympics arena, you guys would still say how great Manny is.
Since when did Roach pick Manny's opponents?
Arum wanted Pac vs Cotto, which was the better matchup/choice at the time, so that fight happened.
Cotto>>Mosley......deal with it
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Originally posted by kidrak View Posti dont know about you but if manny fought shane in 2009, then again people will say pac duck hatton and cotto and pac should fight them in 2009..what a waste..just enjoy boxing dude and be thankful that pac is still around..we all knew manny help the sport of boxing a lot!!Originally posted by GRUSTLER View PostI wouldn't have anything to say negative about Manny at all if he fought Shane in 2009 because Shane was the man to beat after he smashed Antonio Margarito.
Originally posted by GRUSTLER View PostI think everyone is pretty much missing the over all view right
now. I see it like this. Manny Pacquiao looked spectacular against
David Diaz and Oscar De La Hoya but prior to them fights he fought
to a questionable decision win against a tough Juan Manuel Marquez
and Ricky Hatton is a bigger pressure fighter that is very durable and
even in his worst performances he fought hard and went toe to toe
with bigger men and didn't quit nor give up! So the notion going
around stating that lil Manny is going to stop Hatton at his
comfortable weight that NO other 140lb fighter was capable of
doing prior, is just too hard for me to believe.
Especially considering that Hatton knows how important this fight
is and that he has Floyd SR in his corner. Honestly I don't think
Hatton will allow Manny to throw all them fast punches because
Manny will be backing up most of the time. Plus, if you look at it
like this, eventhough Pauli has lil power, he still has a durable chin
and Hatton was rocking and almost dropping him with a single punch
and it could be possible that Pauli at his comfortable weight (140)
chin is more solid than Manny's because Manny has been hurt and
wobbled by a lesser puncher in Marquez and I know for sure that
Manny is not going to be able to dance around and avoid a game
Hatton without getting hit for 12Rds.
and didn't you pick cotto against Pac on that same year?
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Originally posted by jltsmae View Postso what happens to your comments last 2009 for the Pac - Hatton fight?
and didn't you pick cotto against Pac on that same year?
WHAMOOOOOO!!!!!
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Originally posted by -Top Rank- View PostSince when did Roach pick Manny's opponents?
Arum wanted Pac vs Cotto, which was the better matchup/choice at the time, so that fight happened.
Cotto>>Mosley......deal with it
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Originally posted by GRUSTLER View PostI did pick Hatton over Pacquiao. Hey, don't blame me for atleast thinking it would be competitive but of course Pac fans knew that Hatton wasn't much of a challenge. I like to call myself an optimistic person and hope for a competitive fight. So say for instance if I pick Mosley over Pac and Pac wins. Will you guys hang that over my head for the rest of our lives because you guys already knew that Mosley didn't stand a chance like Hatton? Because as of right now, you Pac guys are trying to pass Mosley off as a threat but I bet you if I pick Shane over Pac. You are going to say that I don't know anything about boxing and I'm hating on Manny because I didn't choose Pac. Which one is it? Is Mosley a threat or not? Why should I be constantly reminded of picking against Pac by his fans? You know why? Cause apparently Pac fights are already won before he gets in the ring.
WHAMOOOOOO!!!!!
Originally posted by GRUSTLER View PostI wouldn't have anything to say negative about Manny at all if he fought Shane in 2009 because Shane was the man to beat after he smashed Antonio Margarito.
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Originally posted by GRUSTLER View PostSee.... This is what I'm talking about. No Cotto wasn't a better fight than Mosley. Mosley was ranked #1 at WW and just came off of a spectacular win against Antonio Margarito who pummeled Cotto and took his title. The only thing that made Cotto better was that Cotto was a Top Rank fighter and all the money could be kept in house. PLUS Cotto looked not that good in his match against Clottey. Had a big gash over his eye and Pac still forced a reluctant Cotto to defend his title at a catchweight. Eventhough Miguel was the Champion. It was Cotto's fault to for letting Arum pimp him like that BUT in no way was Cotto a better win than a fight with Mosley status wise. Roach didn't want none of Shane after Margarito and that's a fact. Arum wanted Pac to fight Cotto and he did because Arum is pimping Manny and he seems to like it.
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Originally posted by jltsmae View PostI question this post of yours below:
you have no problem with Pac fighting undefeated hatton @140 and Cotto (who already beats Shane) last 2009. and all of a sudden, Shane is the man to beat back in 2009?
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Originally posted by GRUSTLER View PostI never discredited the Hatton win at 140. That win was legit for the title. No problem there. Shane was the man to beat at WW though. Shane had already beat (NO PLASTER) Margarito before Pac fought Cotto. Shane was begging Pac for a fight while Pac was waiting to see the outcome of Cotto/Clottey. Sure Cotto beat Mosley but barely, as an undefeated fighter AND at 147. Pac was looking for his 7th title and Shane had Cotto's that he won from Margarito. Roach didn't even want to give Shane a 145 catchweight like Cotto. Hell, he didn't even want to give Cotto a 145 catchweight? How can you guys cosign all of these facts?! Sure Pac is a good, exciting fighter but he has been parking in the handicap zone.
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