Joshua Clottey vs Victor Ortiz

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  • SERVILEV
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    #11
    Originally posted by _hisoka
    no, not ever. Just don't want to see clottey anymore, he's a waste.

    Ortiz is gonna have to work, not worry about landing clean shots. He'll have to keep a cool head, not go into panic mode. He best not pull straight back either because clottey does have a straight right hand and can fight in close. In fact, there are a lot of things clottey can do, it's too bad he's weak minded and his stamina is very questionable. I wouldn't know who to lean towards, i want to say ortiz because i really dislike clottey after the shitty performance he put up against pacquiao, so i don't know really.
    i dont dislike him after pacq, he was just clearly outclassed and confused on what to do. I really think the pressure of venue and under dog stat and all that played a bigger role than we give credit for. This was not the same clottey that fought and i believe beat cotto.

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    • Cuauhtémoc1520
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      #12
      At this stage, I don't want to see Clottey fight period. He had the fight won vs Cotto but just didn't throw punches.

      He's just not active enough and that's because he doesn't want to take chances. He did it vs margarito, vs cotto and against Ortiz would be the same thing. Ortiz throwing punches and Clottey covering up landing the occasional jab.

      No thanks

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      • Doctor_Tenma
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        #13
        Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1502
        At this stage, I don't want to see Clottey fight period. He had the fight won vs Cotto but just didn't throw punches.

        He's just not active enough and that's because he doesn't want to take chances. He did it vs margarito, vs cotto and against Ortiz would be the same thing. Ortiz throwing punches and Clottey covering up landing the occasional jab.

        No thanks
        Thanks!

        At least someone else remembers that it isn't the Pacquiao fight that should only be looked at. Clottey just lacks determination, it was more than just lack of stamina against Margarito.

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        • Cuauhtémoc1520
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          #14
          Originally posted by _Hisoka
          Thanks!

          At least someone else remembers that it isn't the Pacquiao fight that should only be looked at. Clottey just lacks determination, it was more than just lack of stamina against Margarito.
          It's not lack of determination, it's not wanting to take chances. He can beat lower level opponents with that style but when fighting good boxers like Cotto and pressure fighters like Marg, you have to have punch output to win.

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          • Pastrano
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            #15
            Quite good matchup, could be interesting to watch. I'll go with Ortiz, he absorbs some leather from Clottey but walks him down down the stretch. Doubt Clottey can be stopped, but Ortiz does punch hard...not sure. Maybe a championship round-stoppage?

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            • Heeb
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              #16
              In his last fight, he covered up and barely threw a punch for 12 rounds. How about we see him beat someone decent before he give him a title shot?

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              • 1believer
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                #17
                What has he done to deserve a 4th title fight in a row when he lost his last two title fights

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                • FINCHINGBAG
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                  #18
                  They should not let clottey fight!!
                  The fight with pacquiao, he took the money and ran.

                  The commisioner should punish fighter who takes peoples money.

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                  • puga
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                    #19
                    id like to see it.....if clottey does'nt hold out , he can win .. clottey is better than berto btw.....

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                    • Chopper417
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1502
                      At this stage, I don't want to see Clottey fight period. He had the fight won vs Cotto but just didn't throw punches.

                      He's just not active enough and that's because he doesn't want to take chances. He did it vs margarito, vs cotto and against Ortiz would be the same thing. Ortiz throwing punches and Clottey covering up landing the occasional jab.

                      No thanks
                      Originally posted by FINCHINGBAG
                      They should not let clottey fight!!
                      The fight with pacquiao, he took the money and ran.

                      The commisioner should punish fighter who takes peoples money.
                      He was given the opportunity of a life time against Pac and he didn't even try..literally didn't even try..it was an embarassing and completely pathetic performance. If you show up and have an off night, or get completely outclassed that's fine, the fans will forgive you, however making absolutely NO effort to win the fight I simply cannot forgive. Showing up on the most important night of your career and making no effort to win is unforgivable in my book.

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