Comments Thread For: Ward vs Abraham is in Jeopardy of Being Called Off

[J.R]

Abraham has has 30 of his 34 professional fights in Germany, and some of you Stans are crying about advantages? Abraham is going to lose again period. Andre has thoroughly defeated ever opponent he's faced, and you dudes making lames excuses about butts, and where his fights take place are just bitter.

War S.O.G

Except, he is Armenian......

Lol, joke, I know what you're saying.

[LeadUppercut]

Come on, all the controversy over the ringside officials is unwarranted.

The referee, judges, and venue are totally neutral.

Judges

Cedric Ward (Oakland)

Jerome Ward (Oakland)

Shandice Ward (Oakland)

Referee

Andre Ward Sr (Oakland)

Ringside Doctor

Dr. Shaw-Hi

Venue

Dining Room (Ward Residence, Oakland)

Everything is fair and transparent. Talk of bias towards Andre Ward is way off the mark.

Apparently, you are correct, the statement from Sauerland was rubbish.....

http://www.boxingscene.com/wards-promoter-responds-sauerland-on-officials--38552

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Ahem.....

It is unlikely to have any real bearing on the fight at all, so I think that the "protected" allegations could be a little knee-jerk, let's wait and see, this should get sorted.

[BattlingNelson]

Apparently, you are correct, the statement from Sauerland was rubbish.....
http://www.boxingscene.com/wards-pro...ficials--38552

Oh yeah. Joe Goosen is the ultimate witness of truth.

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Does Joe Goosen have a track record of lying or making things up? Because I know Team Sauerland does.

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Oh yeah. Joe Goosen is the ultimate witness of truth.

I suppose this is pretty much a non-issue until the officials are announced.

I read that Goosen denied that any such " agreement " was in place.....

" Dan Goossen, Ward's promoter, denied there had been such an agreement, but said every effort was made to have neutral officials "

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=6437855

[BattlingNelson]

Does Joe Goosen have a track record of lying or making things up? Because I know Team Sauerland does.

LMAO. If you take everything a promotor says as the truth I got an Eiffel-tower to sell you. Besides you should check this:

I suppose this is pretty much a non-issue until the officials are announced.

I read that Goosen denied that any such " agreement " was in place.....

" Dan Goossen, Ward's promoter, denied there had been such an agreement, but said every effort was made to have neutral officials "
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=6437855

^^^^ Here Goosen DENIES that there is any agreement, but in the pressrelease posted on Boxingscene he actually refers to an agreement:

Article Link - http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&o...#ixzz1KoCRpxs9
This is a legal waiver. By copying and using the material from this article, you agree to give full credit to BoxingScene.com or provide a link to the original article.

Exactly what was agreed upon, the California Commission has granted, one Californian judge, one German judge, one neutral territory judge, and a neutral territory referee, which the California Commission was very helpful in supporting

Do I have to post an 'owned-smiley' for your viewing pleasure?

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^^^^ Here Goosen DENIES that there is any agreement, but in the pressrelease posted on Boxingscene he actually refers to an agreement:

Maybe you should read your own links a little more carefully. Goosen doesn't deny there was an agreement. He just has a different take on what the agreement was.


"Goosen says that "Their accusation that California insisted on a California referee [for Ward-Abraham] is 100 percent inaccurate and, as far as I know, we have agreed to have one California official of the four officials, which is unusual to do. I don't know how much more neutral the commission can be."

[BattlingNelson]

Maybe you should read your own links a little more carefully. Goosen doesn't deny there was an agreement. He just has a different take on what the agreement was.


"Goosen says that "Their accusation that California insisted on a California referee [for Ward-Abraham] is 100 percent inaccurate and, as far as I know, we have agreed to have one California official of the four officials, which is unusual to do. I don't know how much more neutral the commission can be."

Really? Your own posts says otherwise:

I suppose this is pretty much a non-issue until the officials are announced.

I read that Goosen denied that any such " agreement " was in place.....

" Dan Goossen, Ward's promoter, denied there had been such an agreement, but said every effort was made to have neutral officials "
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=6437855

So the above means there is no agreement but the Goosens is doing everything they can to get neutral officials simply because Goosen is such a nice guy. Goosen doesn't have to do it but he does. Maybe his efforts is enough to ensure that the boneheaded CSAC actually appoints neutral officials or maybe the efforts are not enough. But at least Goosen tried to make things right.... That's what Goosen wants you to believe and if you find that credible that's your call.


Oddle enough Goosen, in the boxingscene article, states that there was an agreement namely: One Californian judge, one German judge, one neutral territory judge, and a neutral territory referee.

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Really? Your own posts says otherwise:

So the above means there is no agreement but the Goosens is doing everything they can to get neutral officials simply because Goosen is such a nice guy. Goosen doesn't have to do it but he does. Maybe his efforts is enough to ensure that the boneheaded CSAC actually appoints neutral officials or maybe the efforts are not enough. But at least Goosen tried to make things right.... That's what Goosen wants you to believe and if you find that credible that's your call.

Oddle enough Goosen, in the boxingscene article, states that there was an agreement namely: One Californian judge, one German judge, one neutral territory judge, and a neutral territory referee.

Basically, who cares ?

1.) If, there was an agreement, it has not been dis-honored

2.) If, there was not an agreement, there is nothing to dis-honor

3.) the officials have not been announced yet