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  • #31
    Originally posted by romebyko View Post
    To be real Khan should make this fight with Bradley a reality..Khan's next opponent imo should be Judah if he does not fight Bradley..He needs to unify imo and that's the guy with the other belt in the div..Judah will be a nightmare for Khan imo..Bradley can go off and fight Maidana,or JMM both imo are winnable fights for him..If ya ask me who's in more danger if this fight does not happen I would have to say Khan..
    I agree, make the fight now. Sure, they could both go off and fight other fights but it won't make this fight any better later on. In fact, IMO it would be worse for Khan because Timmy still has a whole host of good options left while Khan will struggle to find good quality opponents that won't (cough) "price themselves out" (cough). JMM already danced that dance with Team Khan (twice), Maidana rematch is doubtful, Peterson - been there already and you know Zab Judah is not going to let himself get low balled either, so chances of Khan fighting Judah could be slim too (due to $$$$).

    Also, once one of them moves up in weight (which will be soon I think), then the chances of either of these guys going back and fighting again at 140 will be slim. They need to prove which one of these guys is the undisputed champ at 140 first. No more delays, please.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
      man, jake donovan is ******ed. didn't he learn from the gamboa/jml fiasco? strike while the iron is hot!

      the problem with timmah/devon wasn't that it made too soon, the problem with that promotion was that shaw didn't want to fight in st. louis where the fight would've made the most money.
      "Strike while the iron is hot" were literally the very first words that followed my byline. I also mentioned Gamboa-Lopez and why I believe the same concerns don't exist for this particular matchup.

      Not every scenario is the same.

      Gamboa-Lopez was always going to be a great fight, and nothing more. As long as Arum planned to screw the pooch with both of them, such a fight was never going to determine featherweight supremacy. Then there's also the part where Lopez is already threatening to move up, and Gamboa is beginning to have problems making 126 as well.

      I'd be shocked if Bradley didn't retire while still fighting at 140. And even given Khan's dimensions, there's absolutely no need for him to bolt to 147 unless it's for a money grab (Floyd fight, for example).

      Between the two, how many fighters in the Top 10 do you honestly see beating them? A few have a puncher's chance, but not much more.

      Conversely, both Lopez AND Gamboa were knockouts waiting to happen, given their styles and chin issues. More than a few hinted that Salido would be a handful for JuanMa, and were right about that. Hardly anyone would heavily favor either one over Chris John, if even at all. Jhonny Gonzalez is a very live dog against either of them, at least for however long his own chin holds up. Celestino Caballero is perhaps less of a perceived risk than before he fought Litzau, but still not exactly a layup for either fighter.

      Bradley and Khan are already at the top of the division. All that's left is to determine who is better. Bradley and Alexander had to fight when they did, because the fight was never going to get any bigger. Bradley-Khan has plenty of time to grow into an event, rather than "just" a fight.

      The idea is to build up the winner as a lucrative option for Pac or - if he ever fights again - Floyd. HBO was specific about that when first flirting with the idea of an unofficial-official tournament.

      Right now, Bradley isn't at that point and perhaps never gets there (although - and at the risk of sounding like my boy K9 - actually being promoted, and not just showcased on TV would help tremendously). Khan is reaching it but still has a way to go. Both are good enough to fend off whatever else is out there, and in far more spectacular fashion than has recently been the case.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by JakeNDaBox View Post

        Bradley and Khan are already at the top of the division. All that's left is to determine who is better. Bradley and Alexander had to fight when they did, because the fight was never going to get any bigger. Bradley-Khan has plenty of time to grow into an event, rather than "just" a fight.

        The idea is to build up the winner as a lucrative option for Pac or - if he ever fights again - Floyd. HBO was specific about that when first flirting with the idea of an unofficial-official tournament.

        Right now, Bradley isn't at that point and perhaps never gets there (although - and at the risk of sounding like my boy K9 - actually being promoted, and not just showcased on TV would help tremendously). Khan is reaching it but still has a way to go. Both are good enough to fend off whatever else is out there, and in far more spectacular fashion than has recently been the case.
        never be worried about this Gary Shaw is a TERRIBLE promoter, decent showcaser. he should be called out at any time

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        • #34
          Ever since the Lopez/Gamboa fight was simmering until Solido came along & stole the plate i think it might not be such a good idea.

          & just like P-Will & Lopez I feel that as naturally gifted as Khan is, he will be chin checked sooner rather then later. the only reason I think Maidana really couldn't pull it off was his footwork was so horrible that all he could really do is chase after Khan and by the time he got there Khan was gone.

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          • #35
            Simmer? Everyone that will ever care about this fight cares about it now. Which means no one in America cares and maybe 10-15 Limey mulims care.

            No one watches boxing. Please indulge the few that do watch boxing with a fight that they want to see.

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            • #36
              Let them fight already

              No need to simmer this one. Just let the fight happen. It would be great promotion if the winner gets Floyd. I say Floyd because if Khan won he wouldn't fight Pac because of their friendship............ That would be a great build for the fight.

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              • #37
                Ya thats the ticket let it simmer and they can both fight tomato cans on my HBO for the next year in pre-determined bouts to "hype" then up to meet each other. **** is waaaay too much man, Im done trying to make sense of boxing.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by withoutthee666 View Post
                  Simmer? Everyone that will ever care about this fight cares about it now. Which means no one in America cares and maybe 10-15 Limey mulims care.

                  No one watches boxing. Please indulge the few that do watch boxing with a fight that they want to see.
                  I agree. When are they going to learn its just a niche sport for the hardcore now. They keep simmering things its going to overcook and the few of us who care wont anymore.

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                  • #39
                    I disagree but this was a well written article and Jake made a lot of points that were true.

                    But I think Bradley-Alexander was made at the wrong place at the right time. Detroit? Are you kidding me? After Alexander selling 10k in St Luis, and Bradley showing he couldn't attract flies to a dumpster, it was obvious, for ticket sales sake, the fight should have happened in St Luis. I know they just wanted a neutral place but sometimes you have to make sacrifices, especially if you are not a big draw, or even a draw at all, in Bradley's case. Poor guy would probably not even sell out a fight in his own neighborhood.

                    Anyway, I agree that Khan and Bradley should fight at least one more fight before fighting eachother. They looked bad in their last fight. Bradley having a headbutt parade over Alexander, and Khan missing wildly like he never boxed before.

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                    • #40
                      Why do *******s like Pullcounter always have to throw insults for no reason?

                      Jake, Fitzsimmons, and Lattersfield are actually good boxing writers. The guys who need to be fired and insulted are Michael Marley and Ronnie Nathanielsz. They are always writing ****** articles.

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