Roach comments on drugs

[Bee Keepz]

Petition.

Whatever happened to that?

It has been how many months, not a single OSDT on GBP cards. Oh no, we're not singling you out.

[ИATAS]

"We refused to do it ourselves."



LMAO...I thought Manny agreed.

they refused to do the whole thing the first time, remember, they would only do 21 day cutoff or something like that.

so yeah obviously roach is right if they demanded olympic style testing against shane they would look like hypocrites.

[Stanly Ketchel]

Are you kidding me?

Ok, so you are willing to risk your fighter, who you claim is like a son to you
against a known steroid user all because you don't want to look like a hypocrite?

You don't want Manny to take random test that bad, that you would fight Mosley anyway without blood test? Are you insane Freddie Roach?

Pacquiao fights with little defence. It's all out war in every fight.
Your gonna let a known steroid user who could be back on the juice step up in the ring with your so called friend and guy thats like a son to you all because you don't want manny to be subjected to the same random test?

If this doesn't raise a red flag wow.

I don't care about being a hypocrite when it comes to getting hit in the head by steroid users. So what, make Mosley take the test especially if my fighter is 100% clean and i know it.

Your argument would have been that Mosley is a known steroid user so we are gonna have random test. The minute Mosley said ok but you have to take the test to, team Pacquiao is like **** it we will fight without the test. We don't wanna be hypocrites. WTF?

Now I know Pacquaio is a bad mutha ****er but if you really care about him would you as a Pac fan take the risk of putting him in the ring with a known steroid user who could be on steroids again without blood test?

Or would you let him fight the guy anyway just as long as Manny is not tested because you guys don't want to look like hypocrites?

Let me know because this is beyond fishy and i'm a Pacquiao fan who loves to watch all of his fights. I'm just not a ******* or a *****.

There is no room for common sense or reasoning on this site. Don't ever question Freddie Roach WTF is your problem man.

[BIGBOXINGFAN]

they refused to do the whole thing the first time, remember, they would only do 21 day cutoff or something like that.

so yeah obviously roach is right if they demanded olympic style testing against shane they would look like hypocrites.

He already looks like a hypocrite because first he said the NSAC rules were solid and have been around for a long time.

Now he is saying HGH can't be detected at all. So that means the rules are not that solid. Which one is it.

[SCEN3RY]

Holy **** talk about reading too much into something. Freddie says we didn’t ask for extra testing because we’d be hypocrites, since we (Pacquiao) would rather not do it. Is this news to you guys? Put it like this, Pacquiao hasn’t accepted to take any test until a test is actually taken (and this applies to every fighter) and will not succumb to any demand unless it’s for a guy of similar caliber, and that guy is still on vacation so, as it stands Pacquiao isn’t going to take a test for Mosley. And according to Freddie, since we’re quoting him, blood testing wouldn’t catch Mosley anyway….do you get it now? Blood testing, hypocritical, but really you can’t catch the guy. Moving on, and Freddie is only sayin what we’ve all speculated in our heads, Mosley has done it before, if that’s not reason enough to believe he could do it again, I don’t know what is.

And Sweeney, when is that new urine test supposed to go in effect?

[madsweeney]

Here you go madsweeney, lets end this little discussion about what exactly Roach was saying. Read below, he's said the same thing that he said in the video. And the quote was from December 21st, here on boxingscene.



Now its EVIDENT, he was talking about turning down Mayweather's request for drug testing.

http://www.boxingscene.com/roach-i-n...-mosley--34054

Different interview, different subject. That interview was a follow-up to the allegations that Pac's team requested that only Mosley was to be tested. And yes, they did refuse WADA testing during the initial testing, but what does that have to do with this interview posted today? You really think that you "caught" them in some lie or something?

Pac initially refused to concede to Mayweather's demand of OST, requesting a compromise of up to 24 days before fight. 2nd negotiations he dropped it down to 14 and since then he claims he'll do it any time to make the Mayweather fight.

Different fight now, Roach is saying they won't ask for OST testing because they don't want to do it either. I doubt he's talking about taking the test for Mayweather because they're not fighting him, not negotiating with him, and well face it Mayweather isn't even an option anymore as he chose vacation over fighting.

[madsweeney]

Holy **** talk about reading too much into something. Freddie says we didn’t ask for extra testing because we’d be hypocrites, since we (Pacquiao) would rather not do it. Is this news to you guys? Put it like this, Pacquiao hasn’t accepted to take any test until a test is actually taken (and this applies to every fighter) and will not succumb to any demand unless it’s for a guy of similar caliber, and that guy is still on vacation so, as it stands Pacquiao isn’t going to take a test for Mosley. And according to Freddie, since we’re quoting him, blood testing wouldn’t catch Mosley anyway….do you get it now? Blood testing, hypocritical, but really you can’t catch the guy. Moving on, and Freddie is only sayin what we’ve all speculated in our heads, Mosley has done it before, if that’s not reason enough to believe he could do it again, I don’t know what is.

And Sweeney, when is that new urine test supposed to go in effect?

Don't know, I think its still going through testing/approvals (you know, the bureauc**** and all other parties want their cut before saying "ok"). They've been talking about it for a while in cycling(used to follow cycling pretty heavily until this same topic ruined the sport), but I believe one of the big hold-ups is not enough testing facilities have the equipment to perform the test.

[Cash Cow]

So what Roach is basicly saying is that everything we've heard about Pacquaio agreeing is a lie?!?!

basically yes

[SCEN3RY]

Don't know, I think its still going through testing/approvals (you know, the bureauc**** and all other parties want their cut before saying "ok"). They've been talking about it for a while in cycling(used to follow cycling pretty heavily until this same topic ruined the sport), but I believe one of the big hold-ups is not enough testing facilities have the equipment to perform the test.

good **** hopefully it goes through, I've a read a little about it some months ago and it sounds like it can really help change all sport around. Apparently it's not limited to any one drug, but it can be made to detect different forms of steroids, which would be f'in awesome.

[V.WEBB]

Different interview, different subject. That interview was a follow-up to the allegations that Pac's team requested that only Mosley was to be tested. And yes, they did refuse WADA testing during the initial testing, but what does that have to do with this interview posted today? You really think that you "caught" them in some lie or something?

Pac initially refused to concede to Mayweather's demand of OST, requesting a compromise of up to 24 days before fight. 2nd negotiations he dropped it down to 14 and since then he claims he'll do it any time to make the Mayweather fight.

Different fight now, Roach is saying they won't ask for OST testing because they don't want to do it either. I doubt he's talking about taking the test for Mayweather because they're not fighting him, not negotiating with him, and well face it Mayweather isn't even an option anymore as he chose vacation over fighting.

I'm done discussing this with you. Reading the first line was enough. You've clearly missed the point.