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  • bluetuazon
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    #111
    Originally posted by Sugar Q
    Why? Martinez weighs in @ 157 easily. Martinez can fight @ 160 because there's no one there. He would be too small for those guys @ 168 coming in @ 185-190.
    u talk about small bro...manny fights at 144-148 on fight time...sergio comes in at 170+...now we talk about how small martinez is for SMW but completely ignoring the fact that pac is also on the same disadvantage because he is a natural welter...

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    • GRUSTLER
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      #112
      Originally posted by bluetuazon
      catchweight title fights is from the time of pacho villa, SRL and others who fought at championship catchweights...ortiz is one....lol
      Floyd didn't though and that's who Pac "supposedly" learned from. According to you.

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      • Sugar Q
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        #113
        Originally posted by bluetuazon
        i dont think marquez has mannys number ...it was a draw and a win...tough fight it is when pac was at 130 when pac was struggling to make weight...

        the way to beat manny is to get his respect..dont let him thorw his combinations...his best defense is his offense...if u control that...u may just have the chance..u just need to out work manny to beat him...thats IMO

        Outside of Floyd, Marquez 3 is the biggest fight for Manny. If Manny and his team thought he could just overwhelm Marquez why isn't Manny fighting Marquez instead of Mosley? Because they know Marquez dragged Manny through 24 rounds of hell and their not anxious to see him again.
        Last edited by Sugar Q; 04-25-2011, 03:48 PM.

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          #114
          Originally posted by sdcluser
          Why doesn't Mayweather just take this easy fight then? That's easy $20-30 mil. A couple years ago, I would think this would be the case. Now, with the new generation of fighters and his inactivity. I don't think this is true any longer. FWIW, Whitaker was done by 35. I do understand the state of sports medicine may have pushed that 35 age abit further. However, I think many in this forum has been making certain presumptions that elite fighters (closing to the 33-35) are unbeatable. The truth is probably somewhere in between. The fight is a lot tougher as most here believer or otherwise the fight would have been easily been made.
          You are correct.

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            #115
            Originally posted by GRUSTLER
            Floyd didn't though and that's who Pac "supposedly" learned from. According to you.
            its the cherrypicking grus...the business side of things...

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            • Sugar Q
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              #116
              Originally posted by bluetuazon
              u talk about small bro...manny fights at 144-148 on fight time...sergio comes in at 170+...now we talk about how small martinez is for SMW but completely ignoring the fact that pac is also on the same disadvantage because he is a natural welter...

              If you wanna be a good spokesman for Manny you should meet with him and tell him not to say he will fight anyone at or around 150. Margarito comes in at or around the same weight as Martinez. Why not just say you knew Margarito was tainted but you think Martinez would smash Manny's ass? Their the same size. There is no excuse.

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                #117
                Originally posted by Sugar Q
                Why? Martinez weighs in @ 157 easily. Martinez can fight @ 160 because there's no one there. He would be too small for those guys @ 168 coming in @ 185-190.
                Q, remember that time when you said in a thread that you didn't mind Pac fighting Martinez at "150 below". So Manny should stop ducking Sergio and fight him at "150 below".

                Then I and some other posters were asking you about it, but you never came back to the thread?

                What happened there?

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                • bluetuazon
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by Sugar Q
                  Outside of Floyd Marquez 3 is the biggest fight for Manny. If Manny and his team thought he could just overwhelm Marquez why sin't Manny fighting Marquez instead of Mosley? Because they know Marquez dragged Manny through 24 rounds of hell and their not anxious to see him again.
                  mosley is a pure business decision IMO.....the name itself will sell...but i have a hunch that pac vs JMM is next...if pac gets by SSM....

                  i hope he fights marquez next so he could shut the mofo up, give him a payday and retire him....

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                    #119
                    Originally posted by bluetuazon
                    mosley is a pure business decision IMO.....the name itself will sell...but i have a hunch that pac vs JMM is next...if pac gets by SSM....

                    i hope he fights marquez next so he could shut the mofo up, give him a payday and retire him....
                    PAC should fight david haye next if he can win in july manny can easily make HW if not he is ducking haye and oh what about vitali?? now that would provide b fire works

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                      #120
                      Originally posted by sdcluser
                      I was addressing this to the previous claim that Cotto would be EASILY annihilated by Mayweather. This is not about Manny. And besides, read my post again you will see that Manny would be included in my original post.
                      I don't know man. Cotto has tasted more leather in 2 fights than Mayweather has in his whole career. I watched old fights of Floyd/Shane/Pac/Margarito/Cotto and honestly.... Cotto was the weaker of them. Miguel got hit by everything with ease. Cotto earned my respect because he is all fight and class but honestly, he was never on a Mayweather level. Doesn't mean that I didn't want to see the fight when both was undefeated but Floyd fought more sound fighters than Cotto technically. Take away Cotto's punch and he was there to be hit all day. 2nd half of Mosley fight proved it and then Margarito closed the show. My opinion has always been Floyd was/is too accurate and defensive for Cotto. Would have been a cross between Phillip Ndou/Arturo Gatti if they ever fought. Wish the fight happened though but I blame it more on Arum then Cotto and Floyd.

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