Who has the better resume Sugar Ray Robinson or Manny Pacquiao?

[puga]

lol you'll know when i'm being sensitive...i'll start dropping posters' names
get a job jro...you spend so much time in boxingscene it's gobbling up your life. seems like having more knowledge about boxing and being a bigger boxing fan is a big deal to you. don't worry you can have that distinction all you want
and really, if that's one of the few things you're good at then i can't blame you if you take pride of it.

jro is boxer...you prolly have seen him fight,..im not gonna drop a name..he's what the nsb calls a BUM ,you know a jouney man...his "power tripping i know it all" attitude comes from not being recognized as somebody good....it gives him a false sense of pride doing all the thigs he does....give you another clue, he's not guaemalean either

[Bushbaby]

How is that ****ting on Pacman? The guy has lost to guys like Torrecampo and Singsurat. I've never said Floyd has a better resume than Pac, but I don't think Pac goes through Floyd's resume unbeaten.

It's all good bro,it is what it is.

[$tate of Mind]

Mak knowledge of boxing>>>>Yours.

The thing with Mak is that he can actually discuss boxing. If you go at him the right way, you can have a real boxing discussion with him. From Marvin Hagler to Simon Brown, Terry Norris, Juliun Jackson, ever smaller fighters like the Ruelas brothers, Tapia, Carbajal, and Chiquita. I have seen him discuss about those fighters and he knows what he's talking about when it comes to those fighters.

I have never seen you discuss fighters like that. I have seen you discuss Leonard and Duran and the Klitschkos but that's about it. And, it was just like one or two threads about it. After that every thing you write is about some crappy Floyd vs Pac nonsense.

Is not that you **** on Pac. I'm OK with anybody ****tin on Pac as long as you bring up great points and make valid arguments and are like that with other fighters as well. But, the thing with you is, that you **** on Pac with silly logic and when you get countered you say even more idiotic ****.

It is what it is.

Give me examples.......

[$tate of Mind]

It's all good bro,it is what it is.

The thing is it's hard to go undefeated, just look at all of boxing's upsets recently. Pascal beat Dawson, Kirkland was recently beat, Juanma Lopez just lost, Ortiz just beat Berto, all of the losers in these fights were undefeated.

[Bushbaby]

The thing is it's hard to go undefeated, just look at all of boxing's upsets recently. Pascal beat Dawson, Kirkland was recently beat, Juanma Lopez just lost, Ortiz just beat Berto, all of the losers in these fights were undefeated.

I was done,but bro,Floyd's resume is almost laughable,especially how highly some rank him.Marquez & Sharmba at 147??Hatton whom I believe had already lost to Collazo??I can't really **** on Baldomir,but probably the only elite fighter at 147 that he could beat was Judah.Osacar was a close fight IMO.Like I said the only fighter that I could see giving Pacman a problem was Oscar at 154,that's it.

[$tate of Mind]

I was done,but bro,Floyd's resume is almost laughable,especially how highly some rank him.Marquez & Sharmba at 147??Hatton whom I believe had already lost to Collazo??I can't really **** on Baldomir,but probably the only elite fighter at 147 that he could beat was Judah.Osacar was a close fight IMO.Like I said the only fighter that I could see giving Pacman a problem was Oscar at 154,that's it.

Corrales, Castillo (2), Hernandez, Manfredy, Chavez, DLH, Mosley, etc. is laughable? Ohh okkkk, the majority of Floyd's carrer was spent below 140lbs. Tell me how many fighters go through these guys unbeaten?

[lefthook2daliva]

Ok. I'm out. This thread has devolved into another mindless ***** vs ******* f@gfest. Or was that the point to begin with and I caught on late?

Anyhow, happy circlejerking.

[Steak]

I know this is a bait thread, but oh well.

So often we simply state that Robinson is the greatest fighter of all time as if its fact, without looking at why that is. Well, just for the hell of it, Im going to compile a list of his accomplishments(If I miss any, feel free to append it, he had a very long and exhausting career full of excellent opponents I might have missed).

Sammy Angottx3-Robinson beat this HOF fighter at Lightweight, and Angott would become Lightweight champ 5 months after losing to Robinson. Less than 2 years later he would go on to beat the first man to beat the ATG Willie Pep. Very overlooked win. Robinson would beat Angott twice more at Welterweight.

Fritzie Zivicx2-Robinson would beat the HOF fighter Zivic twice in a row, Zivic was the Welterweight champ only three months before fighting Robinson(gaining the title from Henry Armstrong, losing it to Freddy Cochrane).

Marty Servox2-Robinson would beat him twice, the first time when he was 42-0-2. Servo would beat Cochrane to become the Welterweight champ a few years later.

Tony Motisi-top ten at welterweight

Jake LaMotta-Robinson would beat this HOF Middleweight 5 times, many times weighing in as a natural Weltweight or less compared to the much heavier LaMotta. Their first fight happened 9 years before Robinson beat LaMotta to claim the Middleweight crown.

Ian Jannazzox4-top ten at WW

Jackie Wilson-top five at WW

Ralph Zanelli-top ten at WW

Henry Armstrong-HOF, arguably #2 best ever p4p, multi weight class champ.

Tommy Bell-#1 contender at WW, Robinson finally wins the vacant WW title by beating Bell

Jimmy Doyle-top ten at WW

Jackie Wilson-top ten at WW

Bernard Docusen-top five at WW

Kid Gavilanx2-HOF, future WW champ, top ten at WW

George Costner-#2 at WW

Robert Villemainx2-#3 at MW, had wins over LaMotta and Kid Gavilan

Charley Fusari-top ten at WW

Bobo Olsenx4-HOF Middleweight, would go on to become Middleweight champ about 3 years after the first Robinson losses, Robinson would beat him again by decision during his MW title run, Robinson would KO him again after his first retirement to regain the Middleweight title in 1955

Jake LaMotta-listed again because Robinson won the MW title by stopping him

Randy Turpin-Avenging his loss to Turpin by KO, Robinson wins back the MW title from this HOF MW, Turpin rated #1 at MW

Rocky Graziano-Robinson KOed this HOF Middleweight in 3, Graziano was rated in the top ten but not prime

Rocky Castellani-Robinson would come out of retirement in 1955 and beat the #2 rated MW by decision(retiring after ahead on points but dying from heat exhaustion against HOF LHW Joey Maxim)

Gene Fullmer-Robinson would go 1-2-1 against this HOF MW, KOing him in their second bout. Gene Fullmer was champ and would go on to become MW champ again

Carmen Basilio-Robinson would avenge his earlier loss to the HOF former WW champ and regain the title

exhausting list, and I probably havent even named all his good wins either. 18 wins over HOF fighters from lightweight to middleweight

about 36 wins over notable competition. Pacquiao has about 12, maybe 14 if you give him some freebies he doesnt really deserve.

[Bushbaby]

Corrales, Castillo (2), Hernandez, Manfredy, Chavez, DLH, Mosley, etc. is laughable? Ohh okkkk, the majority of Floyd's carrer was spent below 140lbs. Tell me how many fighters go through these guys unbeaten?

The lightweight version of Shane would,easier too.

[jrosales13]

lol you'll know when i'm being sensitive...i'll start dropping posters' names
get a job jro...you spend so much time in boxingscene it's gobbling up your life. seems like having more knowledge about boxing and being a bigger boxing fan is a big deal to you. don't worry you can have that distinction all you want
and really, if that's one of the few things you're good at then i can't blame you if you take pride of it.

Oh I actually think I work too much. But, hey what can you do is life.

And, no lets not fool ourselves here you're being sensitive. You act like I ****ted on you or something. Don't worry sweetheart, I will you leave your sensitive ass alone