Who has the better resume Sugar Ray Robinson or Manny Pacquiao?

[IronDanHamza]

I literally could not believe my eyes yesterday. I thought Floyd stans were bad, but I think they're come a long way....... I couldn't believe it, and they keep trying to drag you into a debate that is un-debatable.


This is true (bold). Mak, Kad, and Chups even try and regulate and nothing, they just keep looking dumber and dumber.

To be honest, neither could I.

I mean, the Chavez fan base as bad and the Tyson fan base was also ridiculous. But, nothing, nothing like this.

I don't put those listed posters and the ones from yesterday in the same sentance. Although I strongly disagree with some of their statments and sometimes I feel their a tad biased towards Pac, they are still good posters with an evident knowledge of the sport.

The guys from yesterdays thread just have no knowledge of the sport, at all.

[Walt Liquor]

To be honest, neither could I.

I mean, the Chavez fan base as bad and the Tyson fan base was also ridiculous. But, nothing, nothing like this.

I don't put those listed posters and the ones from yesterday in the same sentance. Although I strongly disagree with some of their statments and sometimes I feel their a tad biased towards Pac, they are still good posters with an evident knowledge of the sport.

The guys from yesterdays thread just have no knowledge of the sport, at all.

dudes are trying their best to make someone like footwork look like bennyst.

obviously, the big 3 I mentioned have no comparison to

[BallisticAffair]

I see some people are finding it hard to deal with the TRUTH and KNOWLEDGE I've dropped in this thread.


But I DON'T see a SINGLE one of you making a PLAUSIBLE case for Robinson.


Check-MATE, babiez.

[Gutz]

TS is a ***** Alt ..pretending to be a Pac Fan..



Cause no Pac fans are this ******.. *****s are though...

[Walt Liquor]

TS is a ***** Alt ..pretending to be a Pac Fan..



Cause no Pac fans are this ******.. *****s are though...

we know he's being sarcastic, however, that stuff from yesterday was completely out of control gutz, no one in here talking about you......

[BallisticAffair]

TS is a ***** Alt ..pretending to be a Pac Fan..



Cause no Pac fans are this ******.. *****s are though...

^^ Gutz = undercover *****sexual!!




I KNOW Pacdbest, hugh grant and the other TRUE fans of PAC have my back on this. The cavalry will probably arrive later!!

[Bushbaby]

I've come to the conclusion that to be a fan of either Floyd or Manny takes prioritizing them more than the sport.There is an awful lot of **** U have to ignore & twist around just to make a case for them.U know kinda like saying beating Barrera & Morrales are greater than beating Hagler & Hearns & if U don't dominate a fighter then it doesn't count.Really unbelievable stuff for sure.Down right ******ed actually.

[puga]

that utter ****** puga will say pac cuz SRL lost to Lamotta.

look at this sore loser right here....if i was a ****** how it's you who could not defend a single thing say yesterday...all i said were facts,....

all you said was..you are wrong, youre a ******,...nothing you said is true...but never countered a damn thing......GTFOH with your BS.....


one more thing mofo, please show the people where i said SRL lost to lamotta.....or that lamota is greater than SRL.....you lyin piece of ****....

[jjbj2]

I say Sugar Ray Robinson and Henry Armstrong are two of the biggest names in boxing which should be at the top of the ATG. Pacquiao is at least at the top 10.

I don't really care for Sugar Ray Leonard and as Floyd said he was a hype job. And I think Floyd wouldn't have said it without him knowing what a hype job is. I have more respect for Thomas Hearns than SRL.

Well, back to the argument. SRR and Armstrong fought inside the decades when racism was in an all time high. Watching clips of Joe Louis fighting a white boxer then winning followed by the audience turning into a mob out to hang him was a scary scene to watch. So, I just believe that fighting in those decades take a lot of courage and self determination to go against the crowd and expectations. Robinson and Armstrong were both pioneers.

To boxing inside the ring, Robinson and Armstrong fought all over the world. They showed their skills and their heart. Also, their schedules of fighting every month, or twice a month then every month, to 15 fights in a year is an impressive accomplishment. If you think about it, if JuanMa can lose to a journeyman named Salido or James Kirkland to Ishida then absolutely fighting 15 times a year would have increased the chance of an upset.

I don't like comparing those boxers to the modern day boxers. Modern boxers have to deal with politics. They don't even fight no more than 4 fights a year. And if they get a little bit of name recognition they become protected properties that only fights twice a year. All the champions today only fights twice a year and named boxers like Williams and others only fight twice a year too. So, those old time boxers would have laughed at the modern day champions. You know how many white boxers challenged Henry Armstrong and Sugar Ray Robinson back in those days? They all wanted to fight them because they couldn't stand those black men being at the top and on top of the white race.

Racism is a great motivator to fight a man. Hate is another thing. And the determination the politically correct term to say why any man wants to win. If I think about it, Ortiz hated people calling him a quitter and hated Berto for saying that he will make Ortiz quit. Berto didn't have hate or racism in his "determination" he only had an inflated ego. Berto thought he was the best because he was undefeated and he never quit. Then Ortiz came along with all the hate in the world and pounded Berto's chin to the ground twice and gave him jelly legs for 12 rounds.

Pacquiao is definitely up their in the ATG. And in this generation, starting from 2003 when he beat Barrera to 2011 and beyond he is definitely one of the best boxers. Give credit where credit is due. I think Rios hasn't fought anyone who will test him out. Right now, if Rios and Ortiz fight Ortiz wins because he found his "determination" which is he hates it when people questions his heart and calling him a quitter. Rios still has that undefeated smirk in his face like how JuanMa showed his before his fight with Salido. But all smirks disappear when the other boxer doesn't want to go down and who keeps throwing heavy punches from Round 1 to Round 12.

[Bushbaby]

I say Sugar Ray Robinson and Henry Armstrong are two of the biggest names in boxing which should be at the top of the ATG. Pacquiao is at least at the top 10.

I don't really care for Sugar Ray Leonard and as Floyd said he was a hype job. And I think Floyd wouldn't have said it without him knowing what a hype job is. I have more respect for Thomas Hearns than SRL.

Well, back to the argument. SRR and Armstrong fought inside the decades when racism was in an all time high. Watching clips of Joe Louis fighting a white boxer then winning followed by the audience turning into a mob out to hang him was a scary scene to watch. So, I just believe that fighting in those decades take a lot of courage and self determination to go against the crowd and expectations. Robinson and Armstrong were both pioneers.

To boxing inside the ring, Robinson and Armstrong fought all over the world. They showed their skills and their heart. Also, their schedules of fighting every month, or twice a month then every month, to 15 fights in a year is an impressive accomplishment. If you think about it, if JuanMa can lose to a journeyman named Salido or James Kirkland to Ishida then absolutely fighting 15 times a year would have increased the chance of an upset.

I don't like comparing those boxers to the modern day boxers. Modern boxers have to deal with politics. They don't even fight no more than 4 fights a year. And if they get a little bit of name recognition they become protected properties that only fights twice a year. All the champions today only fights twice a year and named boxers like Williams and others only fight twice a year too. So, those old time boxers would have laughed at the modern day champions. You know how many white boxers challenged Henry Armstrong and Sugar Ray Robinson back in those days? They all wanted to fight them because they couldn't stand those black men being at the top and on top of the white race.

Racism is a great motivator to fight a man. Hate is another thing. And the determination the politically correct term to say why any man wants to win. If I think about it, Ortiz hated people calling him a quitter and hated Berto for saying that he will make Ortiz quit. Berto didn't have hate or racism in his "determination" he only had an inflated ego. Berto thought he was the best because he was undefeated and he never quit. Then Ortiz came along with all the hate in the world and pounded Berto's chin to the ground twice and gave him jelly legs for 12 rounds.

Pacquiao is definitely up their in the ATG. And in this generation, starting from 2003 when he beat Barrera to 2011 and beyond he is definitely one of the best boxers. Give credit where credit is due. I think Rios hasn't fought anyone who will test him out. Right now, if Rios and Ortiz fight Ortiz wins because he found his "determination" which is he hates it when people questions his heart and calling him a quitter. Rios still has that undefeated smirk in his face like how JuanMa showed his before his fight with Salido. But all smirks disappear when the other boxer doesn't want to go down and who keeps throwing heavy punches from Round 1 to Round 12.

Why are U red??That was actually an amazing post & I gave U green.Hopefully fellow respectable posters can follow suite & help U out bro.