Andy Ganigan The Original Hawaiin punch better then pacman.

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  • jabsRstiff
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    #21
    I just turned 36...

    & I never sought you out to annoy you. I just thought your thread about women was an absolute disgrace.


    I don't follow you around, & I don't look to create fights with you.

    Also, I am a huge 80's boxing fan/follower....I see a name like "Andy Ganigan", & I'm interested.
    So, it was his name & NOT YOURS that got my attention.

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      #22
      Originally posted by SnoopySmurf
      I saw Andrew Ganigan fight live against Sean O'Grady. He had the gift of being able to put people down with either hands...and not by accumation of punches. He can knock people on their ass with one punch. But he had no defense.

      He went all out offensive crazy against Alexis Arguello, I saw this live as well, and knocked him down in the 1st. But Alexis was crafty and began to connect with his solid left hooks and TKO'd Andrew in the 5th round. Had he had the right trainers, he would have been lethal.

      He spoke English as badly (or good as, depending on where you live ) Pacquiao. After the Alexis fight, I lost track of him since I was only in highschool then. He was quite popular in the Philippines for his crazy all out offense.
      He put up a valiant effort against Arguello, but was overmatched.
      Arguello finished him with a right uppercut, right in the pit of his stomach.

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        #23
        Originally posted by jabsRstiff
        He put up a valiant effort against Arguello, but was overmatched.
        Arguello finished him with a right uppercut, right in the pit of his stomach.
        Yeah, I knew with all those punches Andy was throwing that he was gonna get caught by Alexis (I saw his fight with Mancini and knew about his sneaky left hooks). But the lefts he ate slowed him down. It's funny ya know...Pacman was beaten by body shots in his early career. Andrew lost to Arguello via body shot. Rolando Navarette lost to Bazooka Limon because of his vicious body attacks.

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          #24
          Originally posted by SnoopySmurf
          Yeah, I knew with all those punches Andy was throwing that he was gonna get caught by Alexis (I saw his fight with Mancini and knew about his sneaky left hooks). But the lefts he ate slowed him down. It's funny ya know...Pacman was beaten by body shots in his early career. Andrew lost to Arguello via body shot. Rolando Navarette lost to Bazooka Limon because of his vicious body attacks.
          Interesting stuff.
          Navarette was beating Limon fairly handily...then Limon hurt him, as you described, & took him out.

          I remember Navarette defending his title against a Korean fighter....& coming back from a knockdown to KO the guy. One of those "hidden gem"-type of fights.

          Navarette had an amazingly hard right hook, & that's what he used to flatten Boza-Edwards.

          The 130lb class was fun as hell back then....Boza, Bazooka, Navarette, & Chacon...

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            #25
            135 pounders were quite competitive as well! Arguello moving up to 135 and taking on Mancini. Mancini is like the slightly slower and lighter version of Ricky Hatton. Always moving, always bulling, always punching! It seems the lighter weights have never lost any competition since then. It's always been a very active and exciting, unlike the heavyweights.

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              #26
              Originally posted by SnoopySmurf
              135 pounders were quite competitive as well! Arguello moving up to 135 and taking on Mancini. Mancini is like the slightly slower and lighter version of Ricky Hatton. Always moving, always bulling, always punching! It seems the lighter weights have never lost any competition since then. It's always been a very active and exciting, unlike the heavyweights.

              So true.
              Back in the early-mid 80's, at 135....you had Rosario looking like the second coming....a stalwart like JL Ramirez...a slickster/question mark like Howard Davis Jr....a still excellent Camacho making his move....ARGUELLO's excellence.... a bomber like Ganigan....the surprisingly terrific Livingstone Bramble....& always-exciting guys like Robin Blake & Tony Baltazar making great FREE T.V. WEEKEND fights !

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                #27
                I also saw the fight with Bramble and Mancini, live on TV. It was called Night of the Champions. Turned out to be Night of the Upsets. Boom Boom got counter punched HARD by Bramble and even when Boom Boom tried to cover up (which he wasn't too good at - peekaboo defense that night) Bramble just knocked Mancini's gloves into his own face! It was the beginning of the end of Mancini's career. He had a few more fights but he was no longer in the game.

                Back to Andrew and Pac, as far as power goes, Andrew and Pac were both strong punchers for their weight. Pac has better defense coz he does bob and weave his head and torso. Andy, as far as I can remember, (I was in highschool back then) was there to be hit. His defense was his offense.

                But as far as punching power goes, I'd have to side with Ganigan.

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