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  • AFighter4U
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    #51
    Originally posted by BoxingWasp
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    "The more one reflects on Manny and his performances, the clearer it becomes that he is the Bruce Lee of boxing. This athletic style is unique in boxing to Manny.
    In more than 4 decades of promoting fights. I have never seen anyone like Manny Pacquiao and his Bruce Lee style of boxing"

    - Bob Arum

    This is funny. Manny fights nothing like Bruce Lee. Floyd is the closest thing to a martial artist in the boxing ring with the shoulder roll, counter punching, and general body movement. Arum only says that because he's asian. What a cheap way to promote a fighter.
    Bruce Lee is an OFFENSIVE fighter, just like Manny. he hits you first before you hit him.

    Floyd is a DEFENSIVE fighter.

    and yeah, its a cheap way to promote a fighter.

    cheap AND effective.

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      #52
      Originally posted by AFighter4U
      Bruce Lee is an OFFENSIVE fighter, just like Manny. he hits you first before you hit him.

      Floyd is a DEFENSIVE fighter.

      and yeah, its a cheap way to promote a fighter.

      cheap AND effective.
      if that's the case than NUMEROUS other fighters fight like bruce lee. Floyd does both... he leads AND counters, but because he's such a great counter puncher people try to define him as only being a counter puncher. nothing but flawed logic. Manny is ONE DIMENSIONAL... bruce lee was not! Floyd IS NOT. Bruce lee was versatile... "like water" he spoke of adapting to his opponents... that's FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR.... not pacboy.

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        #53
        Originally posted by -D33Pwaters-
        Interviewer: You've got a new conditioning trainer, who's got you on organic food, rather than supplements, shakes and pills - do you feel any different?

        Khan: It's made a massive difference, because I feel so much better now. I'm throwing power shots, and feeling better in sparring now. I'm seeing the impact of a good, natural diet.

        Interviewer: Was the change motivated by the fact that when you got these pills, you didn't know what was in them? Whereas with a natural diet, you know exactly what is going into your system?

        Khan: Exactly. Don't get me wrong, Alex did a great job, but Michael is more of a nutritionist. Your body is like a car. What you put into it is important. You'd want to know if you're putting Diesel into a Petrol car.

        some interesting comments from khan too.
        its natural for khan to try and justify his firing of ariza. fact is, his firing of ariza is most likely motivated by internal strife within his group and would have nothing to do with ariza's work as a nutritionist.

        i would have understood if this was an isolated incident, but ariza isn't the ONLY person khan and his team had problems with.

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          #54
          Originally posted by BoxingWasp
          if that's the case than NUMEROUS other fighters fight like bruce lee. Floyd does both... he leads AND counters, but because he's such a great counter puncher people try to define him as only being a counter puncher. nothing but flawed logic. Manny is ONE DIMENSIONAL... bruce lee was not! Floyd IS NOT. Bruce lee was versatile... "like water" he spoke of adapting to his opponents... that's FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR.... not pacboy.
          floyd is known as a defensive fighter for a reason. of course this doesn't mean that he doesn't have great offense.

          but floyd IS a defensive fighter nonetheless.

          do people say the same about bruce lee? i seriously doubt it.

          If pac is ONE DIMENTIONAL as you say, then he's most probably the greatest ONE DIMENTIONAL fighter out there to have ATGs like SUGAR RAY LEONARD, champions such as WRINKY WRIGHT, and LENNUX LEWIS and so many others gushing over him and being HUGE fans of him.

          or are you saying that only you can see what a fraud Manny is and those boxing champs don't?
          Last edited by AFighter4U; 04-21-2011, 09:40 AM.

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            #55
            Time catches up to everyone, hard to imagine it's chasing Pac down faster then Mayweather.

            Fact is Pac is at his peak, Mayweather is slightly past his, no amount of time will help Mayweather, the longer he waits the less chances he has at being at his best when they meet.

            Unless he waits until they're like 45 and way beyond the point it would matter, i see no way time catches up to Pac before May.

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              #56
              Originally posted by AFighter4U
              floyd is known as a defensive fighter for a reason. of course this doesn't mean that he doesn't have great offense.

              but floyd IS a defensive fighter nonetheless.

              do people say the same about bruce lee? i seriously doubt it.

              If pac is ONE DIMENTIONAL as you say, then he's most probably the greatest ONE DIMENTIONAL fighter out there to have ATGs like SUGAR RAY LEANARD, champions such as WRINKY WRIGHT, and LENNUX LEWIS and so many others gushing over him and being HUGE fans of him.

              or are you saying that only you can see what a fraud Manny is and those boxing champs don't?
              You're trying to base your argument on Manny being a more offensive fighter than Floyd and it's a flawed argument because again... this means that numerous other fighters fight like bruce lee. Thus, it has to be based on more than who is more offensive than the other. It has to deal with style and Floyd is stylistically more of a martial artist and Manny is more like a brawler who throws a bunch of punches leaving himself wide open to get hit (as he does regularly and leaves fights with a busted up face).

              Martial artists ARE defensive oriented and their strength is that they have a perfect balance of defense and offense. That' MAYWEATHER. Manny is more like a celebrated bar fighter with good footwork. People were "gushing" over Arturo Gatti but exactly how talented was he? You've lost this fight. You gave it a good try but got knocked the fuq out.

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                #57
                Originally posted by AllEyesOpen
                Time catches up to everyone, hard to imagine it's chasing Pac down faster then Mayweather.

                Fact is Pac is at his peak, Mayweather is slightly past his, no amount of time will help Mayweather, the longer he waits the less chances he has at being at his best when they meet.

                Unless he waits until they're like 45 and way beyond the point it would matter, i see no way time catches up to Pac before May.
                very good points.

                but who's to say that floyd isn't ******** on Pac actually being beaten in one of his fights? And beaten badly?

                remember that floyd is a betting man.

                then again, i could be wrong.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by AFighter4U
                  very good points.

                  but who's to say that floyd isn't ******** on Pac actually being beaten in one of his fights? And beaten badly?

                  remember that floyd is a betting man.

                  then again, i could be wrong.
                  Hey this is boxing man, you can bet on someone getting beaten or hurt in some way in almost every fight. Why would Mayweather be ******** on something that always a probable outcome.

                  All these things Mayweather may be counting on are just variables that are present in the sport of boxing, but as for time, it's catching up to both of them, but i feel it's got a little bit of a head start on Mayweather at this point in his career.
                  Last edited by AllEyesOpen; 04-21-2011, 09:54 AM.

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                  • AFighter4U
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by BoxingWasp
                    You're trying to base your argument on Manny being a more offensive fighter than Floyd and it's a flawed argument because again... this means that numerous other fighters fight like bruce lee. Thus, it has to be based on more than who is more offensive than the other. It has to deal with style and Floyd is stylistically more of a martial artist and Manny is more like a brawler who throws a bunch of punches leaving himself wide open to get hit (as he does regularly and leaves fights with a busted up face).

                    Martial artists ARE defensive oriented and their strength is that they have a perfect balance of defense and offense. That' MAYWEATHER. Manny is more like a celebrated bar fighter. People were "gushing" over Arturo Gatti but exactly how talented was he? You've lost this fight. You gave it a good try but got knocked the fuq out.
                    well, your problem is the basis of your point is severely flawed to begin with.

                    you actually think that LEGENDARY FIGHTERS would give credit to a bar fighter?

                    that a fan like you can gauge a fighter better than other CHAMPION fighters?

                    you honestly think that someone like sugar ray leonard and NUMEROUS pro boxing trainers would give a mere bar fighter such praise?

                    do you think that a one-dimentional fighter can actually be awarded boxer of the year NUMEROUS TIMES and win the FIGHTER OF THE DECADE?

                    so are you saying that all those veteran boxing champions, writers, trainers etc., ARE ALL FOOLED BY PAC and only you can see him for what he is?

                    dude. if the room you are in smells like crap, and the house you are in smells like crap and the whole world smells like crap to you....


                    then there's definitely something wrong with your nose.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by AFighter4U
                      well, your problem is the basis of your point is severely flawed to begin with.

                      you actually think that LEGENDARY FIGHTERS would give credit to a bar fighter?

                      that a fan like you can gauge a fighter better than other CHAMPION fighters?

                      you honestly think that someone like sugar ray leonard and NUMEROUS pro boxing trainers would give a mere bar fighter such praise?

                      do you think that a one-dimentional fighter can actually be awarded boxer of the year NUMEROUS TIMES and win the FIGHTER OF THE DECADE?

                      so are you saying that all those veteran boxing champions, writers, trainers etc., ARE ALL FOOLED BY PAC and only you can see him for what he is?

                      dude. if the room you are in smells like crap, and the house you are in smells like crap and the whole world smells like crap to you....


                      then there's definitely something wrong with your nose.
                      just like Gatti... they matched him well and they didn't want him to fight Mayweather... well... you see what happened when they fought. simple as that. nearly all fighters can look good if you match them wisely. put manny in there with a flat footed brawler who walks in straight lines with no head movement and he looks spectacular. you get knocked the fuq out and then continue talking? hilarious!

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