When did Julio Cesar Chavez's prime end?

[Doctor_Tenma]

Just wondering...

Also, think Chavez would have ever beaten a prime Oscar? Rewatched both fights and while I know he was well past it, I'm starting to doubt he would have ever beaten Oscar.

[Walt Liquor]

damn, that's a pretty tough question. I"m by no means an expert on JCC Jr's career even though I watched almost all his fights I could get my hands on- they just seem to blend in together now.

I remember hoping he was gonna get old for the Duplessis fight cuz I'm from New Orleans, but he looked prime to me definitely through Camacho to Haugen to Sweet Pea.

I don't know if it was vulnerability or just Pea himself at that time, but I know for sure he was past prime after Pea. Randall beat his ass.

[IMDAZED]

I thought he was past his prime when he fought Randall the first time.

[MARKBNLV]

After the Taylor fight he toopk a lot of punishment in that fight,honestly after that he was never the same.

[RubenSonny]

damn, that's a pretty tough question. I"m by no means an expert on JCC Jr's career even though I watched almost all his fights I could get my hands on- they just seem to blend in together now.

I remember hoping he was gonna get old for the Duplessis fight cuz I'm from New Orleans, but he looked prime to me definitely through Camacho to Haugen to Sweet Pea.

I don't know if it was vulnerability or just Pea himself at that time, but I know for sure he was past prime after Pea. Randall beat his ass.

I think after Pea embarrassed him, he lost his confidence because it really showed how 'lucky' he'd been his whole career and he started doubting himself afterwards. Having said that he was still a great fighter and I heavily favor the best version of Chavez against the best version of Oscar which I think was at 135.

[Walt Liquor]

After the Taylor fight he toopk a lot of punishment in that fight,honestly after that he was never the same.

I disagree. He was pretty damn strong and fast for many fights after Meldrick Taylor. He took a couple tune up type fights and got right back on the horse as far as I remember........like I said before, I was paying close attention to him around this time cuz of the Duplessis fight, and a couple other big fights after that that were on tV.

I thought he was past his prime when he fought Randall the first time.

Ding ding. I think the Pea fight is where it started to happen but defintiely by Randall. But shi t, that was so many fights into a career, its hard to imagine with guys have like 50 total fights nowadays.

[Walt Liquor]

I think after Pea embarrassed him, he lost his confidence because it really showed how 'lucky' he'd been his whole career and he started doubting himself afterwards. Having said that he was still a great fighter and I heavily favor the best version of Chavez against the best version of Oscar which I think was at 135.

i'm cosigning this entire post except the bold.

[RubenSonny]

i'm cosigning this entire post except the bold.

Okay but whatever your views are on the Taylor fight, the blatant corruption in the scorecards is could make you question your abilities, no?

[Walt Liquor]

Okay but whatever your views are on the Taylor fight, the blatant corruption in the scorecards is could make you question your abilities, no?

regardless, that doesn't make his "whole career" lucky. that's one fight.

its not like taylor was the only time he stepped up in class or only time he fought a real fighter by the time he fought pea.

[Doctor_Tenma]

I thought he was past his prime when he fought Randall the first time.

That's what I'm leaning towards, but it's really hard to say cause Randall fought a damn good fight.