More devastating loss?

[Jabroni]

Juanma.

Berto lost in a Fight of the Year. The fans won no matter what.

[studentofthegam]

It should be Juanma unanimously. ITs worse because it cancelled a super fight with Gamboa. I say cancelled because I dont know if he can beat Salido. People roun' here act like Salido got lucky but thats another subject. Berto wasnt in line for a super fight with anybody. If it is truth people speak on Berto then the majority thought he was similar to the K-9 of ww's.

[Picazo]

Berto.

Because Berto will have to work his way up the hard way. He has always been pampered. No more soft touches.

JuanMa, he can redeem that loss by beating Salido. Not such a hard task.

Salido has the style, chin, and power to knock Juanma out again... I really think if Lopez cant hurt Salido then then chances are hes getting caught.

[danny711]

I think the general consensus is that the Ortiz/Berto fight had great potential for war, and the "upset".

Juanma was supposed to go right through Salido on rout to Gamboa, or at least I thought so.

[Twako]

regarding future fights,i think berto since he would have a hard time crawling back up. he wasn't considered elite yet and now he's out of the running for big fights. i think juanma will definitely still be lined up for big fights down the road.

[lyonheart]

Lopez loss was deeper to me. He had much more going for him than Berto. Berto was a world champion as well, but wasn't as touted because of the recent comp he's faced. I said all along Ortiz had the better skill set, but I did pick Berto to overcome and be victorious. But, Im glad Vic won, he deserved it. But I think Berto is obviously still in the mix but I also think he will always have trouble with Ortiz. However, I tyhink Lopez could bounce right back as well, but he needs to smash Salido and not let it be close. But Salido is much more than a tough customer, we shall see.

[100%BoXeOAzTeKa]

juanma, but I think both will bounce back.

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[Frank Ducketts]

Juan was stopped. He showed way more flaws than Berto, and both have a lot of flaws...

[JBell11]

That's a tough one! I say both are pretty devastating!

Here is why: I think both will bounce back in their respective careers, first of all. But there are many factors that can determine how devastating the loss is.
When I read the question, I think of the "quality" of the loss. Quality, in my opinion is the manner of the loss (i.e., KO, stoppage, TKO, Decision).

Then I think of the fight significance. Where were they in their careers, who are they fighting, and perception of public

Quality of Loss:
Berto: It sucks when you lose, and it sucks when you legitamtely lose. The manner at which he lost wasn't bad because it went to decision. However, what makes the quality of loss greater is the fact that although he knocked down ortiz fight. Ortiz was still the aggressor, beating Berto up frequently in the fight.

Lopez Hands down, Lopez received the stoppaged. The stoppage may have came a bit early, but know this...it was bound to happen later in the fight or he would've been KO'd. Furthermore that combination he took was brutal! Personally, he never recovered after that.

Fight Significance:
Berto: Was dubbed to be the "next floyd mayweather", easily one of the most (hate to say it) hyped fighters currently. He was going into this fight as the clear favorite. Public perception (media, HBO telecast, Fans alike) majority if not all had Berto pooping on Ortiz. Ortiz's victory and the manner of the victory shocked and amazed everyone.

Lopez: Much like Berto, Lopez needs to "Slow his roll" Lopez is a good fighter, but not the best. He displayed in this fight ( like in many others) that he can be hit and with a decently placed punch, Lopez will go down. He can pound his own two gloves all he wants, but when that punch lands he better cover up. Lopez has also been hyped

Conclusion: It's tough to lose the way they did, it's humbling. I think both are equally bad in their own right. I think both of them had way too much wind under their sail, way too fast. When people start saying your the next Floyd, or proclaiming G.O.A.T when you haven't build a solid record yet it can mean disaster....just ask Victor Ortiz.

[TOBYLEE1]

Juanma got KOed, Berto had spots in the fight plus it was a terrific bout.

Both guys still have it to beat a lot of other fighters. The good thing is that now they will be obligated to fight tough competition if they want to be considered one of the top of their respective divisions.

Juanma has KO power and a string of KOs always bring the fans back