Haye Vs Wlad : 1 sided fight or not?

[edgarg]

Same thing that happened in Wlad's last fights will happen again. Haye will talk and talk about being able to get past the jab and knock out Wlad but logic and his resume says he won't last 4 rounds. Wlad will hurt him with the first 15-20 jabs he lands then put him to sleep and Haye will either retire or continue his previous ways of fighting people like Harrison.

The first sensible, logical post I've read in this thread.

[Rick Grimes]

Let's not turn David Haye into something he isn't just like we won't turn Wlad into something he isn't.

Wlad is the unified champion who hasn't lost since 2004 but has been legitimately knocked out three times in his career.

Haye is the WBA champion who defended his belt against John Ruiz and Audley Harrison. The John Ruiz fight was legit, but Audley Harrison is a complete joke.

That's not hating on Haye whatsoever, that's an honest look at this fight. Now you make a decision based on that if Haye has what it takes to win the fight. As far as explosive combinations, you must be kidding unless you slept through Haye Valuev, and Valuev doesn't even punch hard. His last legit knockout was against Barrett in 2006.

Haye was cruising in the fight against Valuev with a hurt hand and Valuev was well known to have a granite chin. Haye knows he can hurt Wlad and the only way to get to him is with fast countering combinations, he isn't just going to lay on the ropes and take a beating like all the HW's he's seen. Haye's goin to go out trying to take Wlad's head off with every punch he throws.

[edgarg]

Let's not turn David Haye into something he isn't just like we won't turn Wlad into something he isn't.

Wlad is the unified champion who hasn't lost since 2004 but has been legitimately knocked out three times in his career.

Haye is the WBA champion who defended his belt against John Ruiz and Audley Harrison. The John Ruiz fight was legit, but Audley Harrison is a complete joke.

That's not hating on Haye whatsoever, that's an honest look at this fight. Now you make a decision based on that if Haye has what it takes to win the fight. As far as explosive combinations, you must be kidding unless you slept through Haye Valuev, and Valuev doesn't even punch hard. His last legit knockout was against Barrett in 2006.

Your post is on the mark, except that Klitschko has NEVER been KO'd. He has been TKO'd, a big difference. Against Purrity he collapsed after the 11th rd and his corner stopped it. He had just overdone it, with 25 fights in his first 24 months of boxing when he was only 21-22 years old and still growing. He weighed only 225. He had won every rd until then.

His second fight, against Sanders, was more legit in that Sanders actually DID catch him with a couple of very solid punches. But what put him down the first and most important time time, was that Sanders head collided with Klitscko's face a fraction of a second after Sanders punch landed. really doing the damage. It was not intentional, but the result of the way Sanders followed through.

The fight with Brewster stunk to high heaven. Something was wrong there, and it wasn't anything Brewster did, for the 4 full rds it lasted Klitschko half killed him and Brewster's KD in the 4th should have induced the ref to stop it. In the 5th. the VERY NEXT rd. without Brewster doing anything, Klitschko became ill, and began staggering around the ring, and the ref actually had to help Klitschko to his corner, with Klitschko falling down in the process. This was a mystery on a par with Harold Johnson's famous "Poisoned Orange" case years ago, where this really great fighter began staggering around the ring in the second rd with no apparent cause, meriting an NC.

Klitschko's very next fight with undefeated KO king Samuel Peter, put paid to reports of Klitschko's supposedly fragile chin, with Peter landing several flush right hands with no effect. Amongst the properly informed anyway. And that it lasted 12 tough rds washed out the reports that he weakened as the fight went on, since, after the 12, he looked ready for another 12, and nearly KD'd Peter with a left hook in the 12th.

He has never shown a single sign of poor stamina nor a risky chin BEFORE, nor SINCE, and it was only in those 3 fights, could ANY slight question about his chin and stamina ever have arisen.

Those who think differently and are fondly relying on fairy tales, I say, "Good luck to you".
To make yourselves feel happy, you endow that crapper Haye with SUPERHUMAN strength, speed and endurance.........again, good luck, but don't hold your breath.....

[edgarg]

Haye was cruising in the fight against Valuev with a hurt hand and Valuev was well known to have a granite chin. Haye knows he can hurt Wlad and the only way to get to him is with fast countering combinations, he isn't just going to lay on the ropes and take a beating like all the HW's he's seen. Haye's goin to go out trying to take Wlad's head off with every punch he throws.

I'm happy you are so confident. Perhaps your confidence could be supported by a small bet??

[edgarg]

This fight won't be one sided, it will be exciting aslong as it lasts. It will be back and forth with Wlad trying to pressure Haye and Haye coming back with explosive combinations.

I regret to inform you that form and facts indicate that the only thing "expolsive' about this fight will be that when Klitschko hits Haye properly, Haye will explode like an over-ripe tomato.

[ROSS CALIFORNIA]

fight won't happen

This ***** is getting old. The fight will happen. Quite acting like a cry baby and accept it.

[TheIcon]

Your post is on the mark, except that Klitschko has NEVER been KO'd. He has been TKO'd, a big difference. Against Purrity he collapsed after the 11th rd and his corner stopped it. He had just overdone it, with 25 fights in his first 24 months of boxing when he was only 21-22 years old and still growing. He weighed only 225. He had won every rd until then.

His second fight, against Sanders, was more legit in that Sanders actually DID catch him with a couple of very solid punches. But what put him down the first and most important time time, was that Sanders head collided with Klitscko's face a fraction of a second after Sanders punch landed. really doing the damage. It was not intentional, but the result of the way Sanders followed through.

The fight with Brewster stunk to high heaven. Something was wrong there, and it wasn't anything Brewster did, for the 4 full rds it lasted Klitschko half killed him and Brewster's KD in the 4th should have induced the ref to stop it. In the 5th. the VERY NEXT rd. without Brewster doing anything, Klitschko became ill, and began staggering around the ring, and the ref actually had to help Klitschko to his corner, with Klitschko falling down in the process. This was a mystery on a par with Harold Johnson's famous "Poisoned Orange" case years ago, where this really great fighter began staggering around the ring in the second rd with no apparent cause, meriting an NC.

Klitschko's very next fight with undefeated KO king Samuel Peter, put paid to reports of Klitschko's supposedly fragile chin, with Peter landing several flush right hands with no effect. Amongst the properly informed anyway. And that it lasted 12 tough rds washed out the reports that he weakened as the fight went on, since, after the 12, he looked ready for another 12, and nearly KD'd Peter with a left hook in the 12th.

He has never shown a single sign of poor stamina nor a risky chin BEFORE, nor SINCE, and it was only in those 3 fights, could ANY slight question about his chin and stamina ever have arisen.

Those who think differently and are fondly relying on fairy tales, I say, "Good luck to you".
To make yourselves feel happy, you endow that crapper Haye with SUPERHUMAN strength, speed and endurance.........again, good luck, but don't hold your breath.....

Great post, Never knew that about the sanders fight I shall look into it soon to have a look to see what you mean't, and I don't think Haye realises that Wlad actually hits VERY hard, and he is gonna wake up and realise that after he gets jabbed a few times and realises "what am i doing here" before getting brutally knocked out when Wlad actually power punches.

[ROSS CALIFORNIA]

Your post is on the mark, except that Klitschko has NEVER been KO'd. He has been TKO'd, a big difference. Against Purrity he collapsed after the 11th rd and his corner stopped it. He had just overdone it, with 25 fights in his first 24 months of boxing when he was only 21-22 years old and still growing. He weighed only 225. He had won every rd until then.

His second fight, against Sanders, was more legit in that Sanders actually DID catch him with a couple of very solid punches. But what put him down the first and most important time time, was that Sanders head collided with Klitscko's face a fraction of a second after Sanders punch landed. really doing the damage. It was not intentional, but the result of the way Sanders followed through.

The fight with Brewster stunk to high heaven. Something was wrong there, and it wasn't anything Brewster did, for the 4 full rds it lasted Klitschko half killed him and Brewster's KD in the 4th should have induced the ref to stop it. In the 5th. the VERY NEXT rd. without Brewster doing anything, Klitschko became ill, and began staggering around the ring, and the ref actually had to help Klitschko to his corner, with Klitschko falling down in the process. This was a mystery on a par with Harold Johnson's famous "Poisoned Orange" case years ago, where this really great fighter began staggering around the ring in the second rd with no apparent cause, meriting an NC.

Klitschko's very next fight with undefeated KO king Samuel Peter, put paid to reports of Klitschko's supposedly fragile chin, with Peter landing several flush right hands with no effect. Amongst the properly informed anyway. And that it lasted 12 tough rds washed out the reports that he weakened as the fight went on, since, after the 12, he looked ready for another 12, and nearly KD'd Peter with a left hook in the 12th.

He has never shown a single sign of poor stamina nor a risky chin BEFORE, nor SINCE, and it was only in those 3 fights, could ANY slight question about his chin and stamina ever have arisen.

Those who think differently and are fondly relying on fairy tales, I say, "Good luck to you".
To make yourselves feel happy, you endow that crapper Haye with SUPERHUMAN strength, speed and endurance.........again, good luck, but don't hold your breath.....

All I see here is a lot of excuses. Wlad punched himself out against Brewster, thats why he doesn't fight so aggressive any more. To say he was never KO'd but just TKO'd is also ****** because he was on his way to getting KO'd. Either way, he was done. And just because he hasn't been hurt since Peter doesn't mean a thing. He hasn't fought anyone that could land anything heavy on him. He's a good fighter now because he moves away and hides behind his jab. He has all the advantages in hight and power and has been fed bum after bum. I'm not impressed at all. Even his KO's don't look that spectacular. The Chambers kO looked good but Wlads performance, not so good. It took him 12 rounds to get a blown up CW out of there? There's no excuse for that, thats just pathetic. Pathetic because some of you Klitschko fans are comparing him with all time greats. He doesn't belong in the same breath as them, or his brother. Enough said.

[TheIcon]

Wlad's power is greatly under estimated.

[Rick Grimes]

Wlad's power is greatly under estimated.

No it isn't, it's greatly underused by him. He should be knocking guys out in the first couple of rounds.