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  • #41
    Originally posted by ИATAS206 View Post
    no, it was simply created to clear up the confusion of all the corrupt ABC titlists and to crown someone who is viewed as the best in the division
    In 2002, The Ring attempted to clear up the confusion regarding world champions by creating a championship policy. It echoed many critics' arguments that the sanctioning bodies in charge of boxing championships had undermined the sport by pitting undeserving contenders against undeserving "champions", and forcing the boxing public to see mismatches for so-called "world championships". The Ring attempts to be more authoritative and open than the sanctioning bodies' rankings, with a page devoted to full explanations for ranking changes. A fighter pays no sanctioning fees to defend or fight for the title at stake, contrary to practices of the sanctioning bodies. Furthermore, a fighter cannot be stripped of the title unless he loses, decides to move to another weight division, or retires.

    There are currently only two ways that a boxer can win The Ring's title: defeat the reigning champion; or win a box-off between the magazine's number-one and number-two rated contenders (or, sometimes, number-one and number-three rated). A vacant Ring championship is filled when the number-one contender in a weight-division battles the number-two contender or the number-three contender (in cases where The Ring determines that the number-two and number-three contenders are close in abilities and records).

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ring_%28magazine%29
    The guys at Ring have let the line be blurred and have allowed copy in their magazine to read 'lineal' in cases where there was real dispute between their belt and the historical line. Most of the time, lineage and Ring belts line up. They are a little too strident in their rules sometimes, IMO, and not consistent with them but have gotten better.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
      Should it be? No.

      Will it be? Very much possible at this rate.
      well,according to the ring rules , it can be...with floyd not fighting ,and berto losing ,shane can easily be # 3 just right behind ortiz.....so technically, it's legit if it's for the ring title...

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      • #43
        Originally posted by LarryX2011 View Post
        floyds the linear champ...fact

        manny-shane-wont be for the ring or linear title...no way no how...
        Larry, if Floyd does not sign any contract before May 1, Pac-Mosley will be for the Ring belt.

        Floyd is the lineal Champ, true.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by puga View Post
          well,according to the ring rules , it can be...with floyd not fighting ,and berto losing ,shane can easily be # 3 just right behind ortiz.....so technically, it's legit if it's for the ring title...
          If Shane is considered #3 and Ortiz #2, then it won't be for The Ring belt because Pac will have to fight Ortiz for that title.

          If they move Shane to #2, It is one of those times where The Ring need to be inconsistent..

          Shane has no business fighting for The Ring title or Lineage.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
            If Shane is considered #3 and Ortiz #2, then it won't be for The Ring belt because Pac will have to fight Ortiz for that title.

            If they move Shane to #2, It is one of those times where The Ring need to be inconsistent..

            Shane has no business fighting for The Ring title or Lineage.

            Ortiz is ahead of Mosley. We can put this one to bed.

            http://ringtv.craveonline.com/ratings/welterweight

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            • #46
              Originally posted by crold1 View Post
              Ortiz is ahead of Mosley. We can put this one to bed.

              http://ringtv.craveonline.com/ratings/welterweight

              Floyd will be out. Shane will be #3


              #1 vs. #3 Not a possibility?

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              • #47
                Originally posted by crold1 View Post
                Ortiz is ahead of Mosley. We can put this one to bed.

                http://ringtv.craveonline.com/ratings/welterweight
                Ahhh, thank God. Thank God this injustice hasn't occured.

                Best news I have heard all day, Cliff.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                  If Shane is considered #3 and Ortiz #2, then it won't be for The Ring belt because Pac will have to fight Ortiz for that title.

                  If they move Shane to #2, It is one of those times where The Ring need to be inconsistent..Shane has no business fighting for The Ring title or Lineage.
                  There are currently only two ways that a boxer can win The Ring's title: defeat the reigning champion; or win a box-off between the magazine's number-one and number-two rated contenders (or, sometimes, number-one and number-three rated)

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by miron_lang View Post
                    Floyd will be out. Shane will be #3


                    #1 vs. #3 Not a possibility?
                    Highly doubt it in this case. Floyd may or may not be yanked from the Ring ratings (that's not a given yet) but given he embarrassed Mosley, and Shane ain't won a fight in two years, it would have a credibility gap. Ring has, IMO avoided credibility problems with their belts since the Vitali Klitschko mistake.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by miron_lang View Post
                      Floyd will be out. Shane will be #3


                      #1 vs. #3 Not a possibility?
                      No. Because Ortiz is #2 and an active live dog.

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