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  • #41
    Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post

    that doesn't dismiss the main thrust of the criticism against you... that you suck as boxing judge and can't score fights worth a damn...

    no disrespect intended.
    WOW, you can tell all that from my scoring of one single fight?

    You suck at punctuation.

    No disrespect intended.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by fitefanSHO View Post
      WOW, you can tell all that from my scoring of one single fight?

      You suck at punctuation.

      No disrespect intended.

      yeah... the scoring of that one fight is so egregious that it's safe to say that most of your scorecards do not reflect reality.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by fitefanSHO View Post
        WOW, you can tell all that from my scoring of one single fight?

        You suck at punctuation.

        No disrespect intended.
        The difference is that while he may suck at punctuation, his message is understandable and clear to all who read it; he has communicated a truth. You, on the other hand, have posted a disgraceful scoring of a fight that nobody is going to be able to understand and you are wrong in your analysis. There is a right and wrong when scoring a fight, and your scoring is off the reservation.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by CarlosG815 View Post
          The difference is that while he may suck at punctuation, his message is understandable and clear to all who read it; he has communicated a truth. You, on the other hand, have posted a disgraceful scoring of a fight that nobody is going to be able to understand and you are wrong in your analysis. There is a right and wrong when scoring a fight, and your scoring is off the reservation.
          Opinions are like ******s but only in the 7th do I completely deviate from official scoring. Oh well, that's how I saw the round. In each and every other round of the fight, there is at least one OFFICIAL judge who sees the round as I do. Ortiz won IMO, but my scoring reflects a draw with that point taken away.

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          • #45
            I had 113-112 Ortiz. IMO it was a closer fight than it appeared on TV or even live....I was at foxwoods and scored it live.


            Did anybody notice the crowd chanting FIGHT MANNY, FIGHT MANNY in between the 8-9 round after they showed Floyd on the Big screen

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            • #46
              Originally posted by fitefanSHO View Post
              Opinions are like ******s but only in the 7th do I completely deviate from official scoring. Oh well, that's how I saw the round. In each and every other round of the fight, there is at least one OFFICIAL judge who sees the round as I do. Ortiz won IMO, but my scoring reflects a draw with that point taken away.
              Boxing is crooked, and any judge that scored the fight in that way would have to be paid off. We know it happens and we see disgraces to the sport all the time.

              I do believe in this fight there were some forces against Ortiz from judging to the referee. This was a fight that DiBella had pulled some strings to ensure that had this fight gone to decision, Berto was to be the winner. The only problem is that the fight was so one sided that there was no way to even come close to scoring a draw or W for Berto. That would have been the worst call I have ever seen in any fight from 1920 until today, off the top of my head.

              I do not think you know how to score a fight.

              Kinda like the guy from Princess Bride who kept saying the word inconceivable.

              "I do no think that word means what you think it means."

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              • #47
                114-112 ortiz is the closest this fight could possibly be. Anything closer or even draw is just ridiculous

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                • #48
                  lol...........i gave ortiz 9 rounds

                  berto didnt do nothing first half of the fight or the second half

                  come on mate watch it again

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                  • #49
                    so im guessing u had a few blunts and some gin before the fight started????

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by fitefanSHO View Post
                      Opinions are like ******s but only in the 7th do I completely deviate from official scoring. Oh well, that's how I saw the round. In each and every other round of the fight, there is at least one OFFICIAL judge who sees the round as I do. Ortiz won IMO, but my scoring reflects a draw with that point taken away.
                      But official judges suck, so you're trying to justify your scorecard as not sucking because of official judging is a flawed argument. There's literally no way a scorecard like the one you gave us can be justified or correct.

                      This reminds me of when Burner had Kotelnik-Alexander 10-2 for Alexander, rewatched it, and had it 7-5 Kotelnik. You need to watch this fight again.

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