Russ Amber: We prepared for a marathon but David(Lemiuex) ran a sprint.

[actionjackson]

Yes he had Otis, who was pretty good and was a champ for some months. I remember that he fought Roy Jones and lost badly, a KO I think.

He's probably had an all time total of about 6-12 boxers as a pro trainer in his whole lifetime. And Otis was the only one of any reputation, and that was somewhere in the mid 90's. So I must reckon that he is only a pro trainer now and then, because if he was working at it since, say 1994, he'd have had many dozens of fighters in that time. So at best, he's a part-timer. I think he's involved more in amateur boxing than pro, and he has a lot of other things going as well.

Today who does he have other than Lemieux??

What I'm saying is that he has really NO real experience as a pro trainer, (although he was-maybe still is- an amateur trainer) and just not knowledgeable enough to bring on a top prospect. All the fighting boxing experience he's ever had was as a local amateur flyweight? I'd say he got more boxing experience from his little TV show than from anywhere else. How many flyweights amateur or pro do you think might have been in Canada at that time?

How does he suddenly show up as a "cut" man?? A cut man would need lots of experience, and that mean a sort of apprenticeship of several years with a real cut man. You don't turn up as a cut man with a book in one hand and a jar of vaseline in the other.

I'm just examining the facts dispassionately and constructively. Lemieux needs a real pro trainer, and that means an American.

As someone posted, he's seen Russ Anber quite a few times and his fighters usually lost.

He has Antonin Decaire who is a semi-world class guy aswell. Why the hate-on bud?

[Evil Abed]

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[Cuauhtémoc1520]

Amber is an excellent trainer and told Lemiuex everything he needed to do in his corner, the fighter didn't execute it.

The problem you guys have is that you equate winning with being a good trainer. Now I understand that is the idea of it at the pro level but the pro game is a very difficult game to be involved in.

It's one of the reasons I haven't taken that step myself and prefer to train young amateurs. I feel like I am doing more in their lives and everything doesn't revolve around money.

I thought the stoppage was good, Lemiuex was out and wasn't going to recover. He was gassed because he was going 100% for 6 rounds thinking that he was going to KO Rubio. Rubio is a tough veteran and he isn't going out like that and Lemiuex's lack of experience had him convince Rubio would fold even though Amber told him differently time and time again.

Sometimes one's style doesn't translate to the pro game, that doesn't mean he isn't a good trainer or doesn't know about boxing.

[CubanGuyNYC]

Amber is an excellent trainer and told Lemiuex everything he needed to do in his corner, the fighter didn't execute it.

The problem you guys have is that you equate winning with being a good trainer. Now I understand that is the idea of it at the pro level but the pro game is a very difficult game to be involved in.

It's one of the reasons I haven't taken that step myself and prefer to train young amateurs. I feel like I am doing more in their lives and everything doesn't revolve around money.

I thought the stoppage was good, Lemiuex was out and wasn't going to recover. He was gassed because he was going 100% for 6 rounds thinking that he was going to KO Rubio. Rubio is a tough veteran and he isn't going out like that and Lemiuex's lack of experience had him convince Rubio would fold even though Amber told him differently time and time again.

Sometimes one's style doesn't translate to the pro game, that doesn't mean he isn't a good trainer or doesn't know about boxing.

"You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink."

Lemieux's work-rate was extraordinarily high for nearly six full rounds. Even if he hadn't been caught with that shot behind the ear in the seventh, Rubio would've probably broken him down anyway. David made a terrible but understandable young-guy error: he was blindly in love with his KO power, to the point of trying to finish the fight with one punch for six rounds.

Lemieux paid dearly for disregarding his corner's advice to pace himself. Rubio fought like the gritty, experienced fighter he is. He took the early heat and pounced on his first opportunity to school the young Lemieux. I found it rather beautiful to watch. Marco Antonio showed why there's no substitute for experience.

It was a good stoppage, too. David Lemieux has a real future in boxing. Russ Amber saved that future by sparing his kid a beat-down from a known KO artist. Lemieux will learn from this experience and come back a better fighter. If David had been allowed to suffer more punishment, his career might've effectively ended Friday night.

[Evil Abed]

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[Evil Abed]

Good interview.

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