Russ Amber: We prepared for a marathon but David(Lemiuex) ran a sprint.

[Evil Abed]

I've so often seen him in the corner of fighters who lose, Quebec prospects who don't go very far. He was working with Odlanier Solis earlier this year, and look what happened to him.

I have rarely ever seen him in the corner of a winning fighter. I know he's a cutman for Pascal though.

He has a know-it-all attitude, I don't believe he listens or otherwise communicates well with his boxers.

Solid explanation.

To often people here post crap they can't back up or explain.

[-Boxzilla-]

Anber is an agressive little twiddler and a know-it-all of prime calibre. He has a 30 min TV show with a partner, about boxing, and he's chock full of opinions and NEVER stops talking. And he's always right, although a nice enough guy to talk to-as long as you're not criticizing him it seems..... .

He has practically NO pro trainer experience, and I don't think he's trained more than 5-6 boxers in total since he "blossomed" onto the pro scene a few years ago. He's always been strictly an amateur guy and fought as a flyweight. Well how many flyweights do you think there might have been to compete with when he was boxing...... not many I'm sure, and practically none locally.

I don't think anyone has ever heard of the handful he's trained. After a while he even materialised as a cut man. How that came about I'll never know. He just was there one night, and now he's a pro cut man.

Lemieux would be well advised to get himself a good American trainer (not Teddy Atlas) and keep Anber as his PR guy.

In thought he trained the Grant brothers and had Otis when he won his championship belts ....

[Battle*Hardened]

Russ Anber is a **** trainer.

Lemieux should dump him and hook up with Lucian Bute's trainer.

He's actually a great trainer. He noticed and told David everything to do right, and he couldn't calm his self down enough to execute.

[Battle*Hardened]

Watching DL(my 2nd fav prospect) lose like he did was quite a hard pill to swallow. But that's what being a fan is, he will bounce back, he will learn from this and just like the anime version of him (Makunochi Ippo) he will win a championship in the future.

No doubt man it destroyed my night.

[edgarg]

In thought he trained the Grant brothers and had Otis when he won his championship belts ....

Yes he had Otis, who was pretty good and was a champ for some months. I remember that he fought Roy Jones and lost badly, a KO I think.

He's probably had an all time total of about 6-12 boxers as a pro trainer in his whole lifetime. And Otis was the only one of any reputation, and that was somewhere in the mid 90's. So I must reckon that he is only a pro trainer now and then, because if he was working at it since, say 1994, he'd have had many dozens of fighters in that time. So at best, he's a part-timer. I think he's involved more in amateur boxing than pro, and he has a lot of other things going as well.

Today who does he have other than Lemieux??

What I'm saying is that he has really NO real experience as a pro trainer, (although he was-maybe still is- an amateur trainer) and just not knowledgeable enough to bring on a top prospect. All the fighting boxing experience he's ever had was as a local amateur flyweight? I'd say he got more boxing experience from his little TV show than from anywhere else. How many flyweights amateur or pro do you think might have been in Canada at that time?

How does he suddenly show up as a "cut" man?? A cut man would need lots of experience, and that mean a sort of apprenticeship of several years with a real cut man. You don't turn up as a cut man with a book in one hand and a jar of vaseline in the other.

I'm just examining the facts dispassionately and constructively. Lemieux needs a real pro trainer, and that means an American.

As someone posted, he's seen Russ Anber quite a few times and his fighters usually lost.

[Evil Abed]

Bump....................

[-Boxzilla-]

Yes he had Otis, who was pretty good and was a champ for some months. I remember that he fought Roy Jones and lost badly, a KO I think.

He's probably had an all time total of about 6-12 boxers as a pro trainer in his whole lifetime. And Otis was the only one of any reputation, and that was somewhere in the mid 90's. So I must reckon that he is only a pro trainer now and then, because if he was working at it since, say 1994, he'd have had many dozens of fighters in that time. So at best, he's a part-timer. I think he's involved more in amateur boxing than pro, and he has a lot of other things going as well.

Today who does he have other than Lemieux??

What I'm saying is that he has really NO real experience as a pro trainer, (although he was-maybe still is- an amateur trainer) and just not knowledgeable enough to bring on a top prospect. All the fighting boxing experience he's ever had was as a local amateur flyweight? I'd say he got more boxing experience from his little TV show than from anywhere else. How many flyweights amateur or pro do you think might have been in Canada at that time?

How does he suddenly show up as a "cut" man?? A cut man would need lots of experience, and that mean a sort of apprenticeship of several years with a real cut man. You don't turn up as a cut man with a book in one hand and a jar of vaseline in the other.

I'm just examining the facts dispassionately and constructively. Lemieux needs a real pro trainer, and that means an American.

As someone posted, he's seen Russ Anber quite a few times and his fighters usually lost.

how am i not being constructive ... as said in my earlier post i dont know if we can consider russ a world class trainer but he has trained a fighter to the championship level. and theres no way to argue the fact that this guys has been involved in boxing and training/cornering in some capacity for his whole life, so why would it be such a surprise that hes trained to handle the duties of a cutman? this obviously isnt tyson v douglas type situation where its just a member of the entourage taking the role of cutman, this is a veteran of the sport in many capacities.

i base my assessment of russ from what ive seen and heard from him as well, from his little tv show, commentary for matches but most importantly his cornering. and i thought in the rubio fight he displayed excellent cornering ... he was giving david all the right right instructions. for whatever reason david couldnt follow them. if thats russ' fault time may tell, as of now i think it had mostly to do with immaturity. davids been with russ since he was a child, that bond may not be wisely broken. but is it time for someone new? maybe, id first liek to see how he bounces back first.

i dont know if you consider him a a 'real pro tainer' since hes not american but like tunney suggested stephane larouche can be a viable option ...

[MARKBNLV]

I dont know if Russ is a world class trainer or not. But I did think he gave all the exact right instructions/observations to David in-between the rounds and I really had no issues with him throwing in the towel when he did. A new guy on the team wouldnt hurt, but that knee jerk reaction that many are going to have to just dump him IMO may not be the best way to go.

Can we all say Amir Khan one loss at 22 does not define this kid,sht a lot of guys his age are still ams.

[-Boxzilla-]

Can we all say Amir Khan one loss at 22 does not define this kid,sht a lot of guys his age are still ams.

i think thats a great example ... theres still a real potential upside with this kid imo. time will tell, i wish him the best.

[MARKBNLV]

i think thats a great example ... theres still a real potential upside with this kid imo.

He was on fire in the first few rds,but if he cannot listen to his corner,which now i think he will,it will be all over at 22.