Comments Thread For: Maidana Struggles To Win, But Erik Morales Shines

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  • lopez36
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    #71
    Originally posted by NachoMan
    You, and a lot of other folks, have not been paying attention. If you just tonight discovered that Maidana has limited skill, then you haven't watched many of his fights. Maidana was far and away the most overrated fighter in the sport coming into this fight.
    i think we all knew he had limited boxing skills,what surprised a lot and me included is that morales took him the distance,being that morales himself has declined big time,is older,beat up,and out of his weight class,even though maidana isn't a great boxer,morales isn't the same either,so it was mostly just waiting to see when maidana would ko erik,which to my surprise didn't happen..he's not the best boxer,but he has faced good fighters and taken them the distance too like khan and kotelnik,he had khan barely winning the fight and remember,this is an old erik fighting with one eye
    Last edited by lopez36; 04-10-2011, 01:15 AM.

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    • BG_Knocc_Out
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      #72
      For the people that haven't boxed before, I would like to explain why I believe Maidana's punches were ineffective, even if landed. Many, if not all of Morales punches that were landed on Maidana were flush and clean with great snap on them. Maidana's punches are opposite. He pushes with his punches, regardless if he's fatigued or not. What happens with pushing punches is that they are nullified quite easily. Note how when Morales was seemingly struck by Maidana's shots, he took them very well. This is because Erik was rolling and moving along the same direction as the punches were coming from. A fighter who used this tactic extremely well in the past was Roberto Duran. This tactic ultimately takes off the majority of the steam on the punch rendering the punch almost ineffective in comparison to a punch that has pop. Pushing punches are really only good on the inside with short range and if the target is meeting the punch half-way. Compare Maidana's right hand with Hearn's right hand. Maidana pushes with it with great natural force, where as Hearn's uses an extreme amount of snap. It's very hard to take the steam off a snapping punch, which is why Hearn's right hand was so dangerous. If Maidana had pop on his punches, who would have put Erik away, no questions. I had Erik up by 2-3 rounds because Maidana was smothering his own punches, wasn't landing clean, and when he did land, Erik was moving with the punch rendering Maidana's punch less effective than what was landed on himself.
      Last edited by BG_Knocc_Out; 04-10-2011, 01:16 AM.

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      • J Dubb II 330
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        #73
        I have always thought he had over rated power and mediocare boxing ability, just a ****er, he couldn't capitalize on Morales eye, his stock drops and he falls in that class, where he should had been. He gained nothing from this fight, he needs the rematch one to redeem that poor performance, and because right now there ain't no top dollar fight for him except Morales, I think it also takes a little a way from Khans win over Maidana.

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        • RazorBlade
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          #74
          Originally posted by lopez36
          i just saw morales in an interview say maidana doesn't hit as hard as people think,he hits hard but not like we all think he does,i'll say this,i thought morales would get ko'd early,i even said at end of first round it would end by the third,man morales gained my respect big time,being older,beat up and out of his weight class he gave maidana all he could handle,maidana was even backing up,something i never thought he would do against erik...it was a close fight and just because it was close morales deserves all the respect in the world going 12 against a much younger,stronger fighter,we all thought he would get brutally ko'd
          Well Morales is nuts. He´d fight Wladimir Klitschko and say: Not impressed.

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          Too bad judges have no respect for the sport. Morales deserved at least the draw and the win for bringing boxing back out of the shadow of MMA for one night. If you want to know why boxing is dead in Vegas. Erik Morales just gave you the answer. They don´t make him like that anymore.

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          • John Barron
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            #75
            Originally posted by lopez36
            i just saw morales in an interview say maidana doesn't hit as hard as people think,he hits hard but not like we all think he does,i'll say this,i thought morales would get ko'd early,i even said at end of first round it would end by the third,man morales gained my respect big time,being older,beat up and out of his weight class he gave maidana all he could handle,maidana was even backing up,something i never thought he would do against erik...it was a close fight and just because it was close morales deserves all the respect in the world going 12 against a much younger,stronger fighter,we all thought he would get brutally ko'd
            coming from a guy who makes his opponents wear pillow gloves, yeah it makes sense. maidana has always been the crude rough and tough bruiser that will test your soul and will to win, not a master boxer that some idiots here thought he was for some reason.

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            • julian25
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              #76
              Originally posted by RazorBlade
              Well Morales is nuts. He´d fight Wladimir Klitschko and say: Not impressed.

              LEGEND!

              Too bad judges have no respect for the sport. Morales deserved at least the draw and the win for bringing boxing back out of the shadow of MMA for one night. If you want to know why boxing is dead in Vegas. Erik Morales just gave you the answer. They don´t make him like that anymore.

              Very well said!

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              • ThoedEssay
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                #77
                anybody who talks **** about Morales should be banned he is Rocky in real life a True champ Maidana is a b level brawler dirty fighter who will get his sometime soon

                and Fucc you pueta Icans talking ****

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                • julian25
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Body Movin'
                  coming from a guy who makes his opponents wear pillow gloves, yeah it makes sense. maidana has always been the crude rough and tough bruiser that will test your soul and will to win, not a master boxer that some idiots here thought he was for some reason.
                  Someone is feeling sad and bleu cuz chino couldn't put away a "has-been"

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                  • julian25
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by ThoedEssay
                    anybody who talks **** about Morales should be banned he is Rocky in real life a True champ Maidana is a b level brawler dirty fighter who will get his sometime soon

                    and Fucc you pueta Icans talking ****
                    Dont make this racial dude. tonite was a great night for boxing.

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                    • John Barron
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by julian25
                      Someone is feeling sad and bleu cuz chino couldn't put away a "has-been"
                      i'm a big fan of both fighters, just not as simple minded as most of you are.

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