Kirkland will bounce back. It's not like he got KTFO Ricky Hatton style. He still has a lot left. I think he was just being rushed. Kirkland fought 3 times in like 5 weeks. They should've been fighting him once every 8 weeks or something. Give him time to try and get back down to his natural weight class of 154.
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Originally posted by Chew BackAtacha View Postnot so much the posters on here but more the boxing media
funny how you only mentioned dawson on the list.
maxboxing hyped the **** out of adrian broner and james kirkland. hbo hyped the **** out of the anthony peterson
i dont agree witht the thread starter but there can be no doubt that african american fighters, with some expections like cloud, bradley, are not as tough as what they used to be. i dont think its racist to mention this, mexicans are as tough as always, things havent changed much
dawson - see the two johnson fights, pascal, he has talent but i question his heart - i could say that about a lot of african fighters nowadays, hagler they are not
Easy for you and others on this forum to question peoples toughness when you yourself are not in the ring and not boxing, taking punishment and standing and trading with a boxer when you have the speed advantage...UH THAT DON'T MAKE YOU TOUGH...it means your ******! guys who take punishment do so because they don't have the Speed, Footwork or Reflex to do avoid punishment
bottom line, the expectation for BLACK FIGHTERS will ALWAYS BE HIGHER because of the RICH HISTORY, every black fighter will always be compared to other LEGENDARY BLACK FIGHTERS so automatically many of them will have UNREALISTIC EXPECTATIONS ANYWAY, then when they don't live up to being another Tyson or Leonard or Mayweather, people like yourself will be quick to call them "OVERRATED"
I don't get into the whole race BS because I never watched boxing like that and I never will, but people on this forum seems to go crazy when a black fighter loses or even a Rican fighter, much more then when somebody else loses
but as someone else posted, EVERY COUNTRY HYPE THEIR OWN and that is true, its is because Showtime and HBO does most of its production from the US...OF COURSE you are going to see them hype up American Fighters, just like when I watch the UK broadcast, they hype of their OWN and talk more about their own legends
and HYPE is not just some little website talking about a fighter, HYPE is when many websites and magazines is calling a fighter "THE NEXT BIG THING", Lemieux was hyped way more then KIRKLAND, Lemieux just last week was talking about breaking down Sergio Martinez, HYPE is what Saul Alvarez is getting right now, when you basically LABEL this guy "THE NEXT BIG THING" before he even beats a TOP FIGHTERLast edited by sicko; 04-10-2011, 02:16 AM.
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Originally posted by RichCCFC View PostWow.. Look at my join date, I've seen Jacobs being hyped as the next B-Hop (dominant middleweight) since the amateurs.
And Kirkland.. don't get me started on him. Kirkland was supposed to KTFO Martinez and Williams.. KO Cotto, Margarito, Angulo and even Pacquiao.
Kirk is strong, exciting and very flawed and that's about it. I feel you are threatened by black fighters, so you look for any loss as a way to openly/undercover say (See! see!, blacks aren't all that),..
It's boxing dude, all races have good, bad and great fighters. Stop it
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Originally posted by RichCCFC View PostBut a lot of black fighters are overrated and overhyped IMO based on their colour.
They are either the next Mike Tyson or next Floyd Mayweather if they are A) Athletic sluggers or B) Quite good boxers.
Kirkland and Jacobs are just two recent examples.
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Originally posted by RichCCFC View PostBut a lot of black fighters are overrated and overhyped IMO based on their colour.
They are either the next Mike Tyson or next Floyd Mayweather if they are A) Athletic sluggers or B) Quite good boxers.
Kirkland and Jacobs are just two recent examples.
Dont know about Kirkland but i know Jacobs had a healthy amateur career, which adds to the standing, also an Athletic Slugger Quite good boxer who is black is and will always be more marketable then any white fighter!!!
Black, Mexicans,Whites, Other in order of what people wanna see in boxing, now the MMA may be different!!
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