First Pascal gets exposed, now Lemieux. Is Bute next?

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  • Evil Abed
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    #11
    Originally posted by U_CAN'T_BRAWL
    Where've you been?


    Andrade already did it.




    I wouldn't say Pascal's been exposed, BTW. He's a genuinely good fighter, it takes an excellent class of opposition to undress him.

    Lemieux had never fought anyone that durable and manful before and, knowing Rubio, the result didn't surprise me at all. I personally never saw him being that big a deal, anyway, but Lemieux can still bounce back and realize some of the potential people see in him. Again, not really an exposure, he just didn't fight smart.

    **** Bute.


    Who exposed who?

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    • Rocky Rode
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      #12
      Lemieux is way too young to say he was "exposed." His corner did a good job by stopping the fight, IMO. He didn't take a tremendous amount of damage and I think if he'd get a new trainer/co-trainer to show him a few things he'll be able to get the top of 160 in a couple years. I think this just proved Lemieux was being rushed.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Rocky Rode
        Lemieux is way too young to say he was "exposed." His corner did a good job by stopping the fight, IMO. He didn't take a tremendous amount of damage and I think if he'd get a new trainer/co-trainer to show him a few things he'll be able to get the top of 160 in a couple years. I think this just proved Lemieux was being rushed.
        He needs to stop loading up on every punch.

        Its really hard to fight like that.

        Second he should try to get down to 154.

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        • Heru
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          #14
          Originally posted by Kevin Malone
          I still like Lemiuex's upside over Bute and especially Pascal.
          You think Lemieux has the potential to be a dominating 2 time titlist (I don't care what the official record says... Andrade knocked Bute out in the 12th round of the first fight), #1 in the division, and top 10 P4P like Bute?

          You think Lemieux has the potential to be a titlist, get a W over a top 10 P4P, and be Ring Champion at a division above like Pascal?

          He possibly could, if matched right, but I don't see it.

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          • KnockUTheFukOut
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            #15
            I seen many flaws in the 1st fight with Andrade also

            I think Kessler beats him if the Eye is healthy, I think Ward would overpower him and destroy him inside, he might be able to get a UD IN CANADA over Froch though but Bute is very beatable just like most fighters, if you have to right strategy

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            • AL-MUQAWAMA
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              #16
              Originally posted by ThePhantom5
              Who exposed who?
              LOL, is that supposed to be some kind of incisive rejoinder?

              Andrade isn't being billed as anything special. He's got a jaw, a hard punch and he's crazy limited beyond that. And yet, he still ****ed Bute up.

              Bute's intangibles were found badly wanting. And it will happen again. Carl Froch would tear him a new asshole. End of.

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              • Kevin Malone
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                #17
                Originally posted by QUELOQUE
                You think Lemieux has the potential to be a dominating 2 time titlist (I don't care what the official record says... Andrade knocked Bute out in the 12th round of the first fight), #1 in the division, and top 10 P4P like Bute
                I don't think Bute is top 10 P4P. He's at best 3rd at SMW. I don't think he beats Ward or Froch for sure, and he'd struggle with Johnson, Dirrell, and Kessler. He got KO'd by Andrade who I think is overrated by a ton of boxing fans.

                You think Lemieux has the potential to be a titlist, get a W over a top 10 P4P, and be Ring Champion at a division above like Pascal?
                Titlist=Nothing to me. JCC Jr is a titlist, so what? Dawson and Hopkins both clearly outclassed Pascal, Dawson just didn't let his hands go, and Pascal got a hometown decision over BHop. Pascal continues to not impress me at all.

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                  #18
                  Bute already came back from the Andrade fight where he really should have been TKO'd in the 12th. That's adversity. Bute still needs to fight some better fighters though.

                  Whether it was a zombie Dawson or not Pascal beat him. And Diaconu isn't bad. Pascal has proven himself to me. I just think he fights in an annoying style, and he got a gift against Hopkins.

                  Lemieux needs to learn how to body punch. I don't know if he's going to be all that great or not. he reminds me of 140 Cotto without some important intangibles. He's not that good of a counter puncher and he doesn't attack the body enough. Well that's what I've gotten out of his early KO's and the Rubio fight.

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                  • cleaner147
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                    #19
                    kessler KOs Bute. no disrespect

                    lemieux gonne bounce back.

                    pascal? well let w8 for the rematch

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                    • Rocky Rode
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by ThePhantom5
                      He needs to stop loading up on every punch.

                      Its really hard to fight like that.

                      Second he should try to get down to 154.
                      I don't know if his stamina just sucks or if he was trying to load up on every single punch, but I think it's obvious he needs to get a new trainer to teach him how to pace himself better or work on his conditing. The problems with Lemiuex is nothing that can't be fixed. I think he'll be fine.

                      I don't know if he can fight at 154. I know he started off his career at that weight, but he hasn't fought there in 3 years.

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