Why did Mosley Fail to Impress?

[Foldem4me]

Was this fight similar to the one against Estrada? I saw that one and thought that Shane was not the same guy of old. I don't think the guy is shot or anything. I think that he is going for a style that does not suit him. He is facing naturally bigger guys, yet, he thinks that he will Ko them clean like they were lightweights. I think he has to throw more combinations and never forget his body attack. If he wants Ko's, the body is the key.

Well said.

[InThisCorner]

Whos his new trainer? And why is he teaching Mosley this new way to fight?

[Bozo_no no]

I see such a waste of his abilities in the style of fighting he's adopted the last several fights. I'm not demanding he knock guys out but I know he can accumulate punches aggressively when he wants too and frankly it frustrates me when he gives opponents opportunities they haven't earned, he's just giving them the chance to lead. He seems to give his opponents so much time to recover when he has the clear advantage and can just kick their asses if he wants to but he doesn't seem to want to.

Bozo, Mosley did win decidedly and took almost every round without a doubt but this guy has a mere fraction of Mosley's abilities, is slower than erosion and he's still there at the end with his arms raised like he won and now it's in the hands of the judges and we all know how flawless a judges perception is of boxing matches. I don't ever want to see Mosley get robbed but **** happens in boxing and if Mosley can't put some of these credible welterweights away then perhaps he's in the wrong weight class. With his ability and drive he should be able to put some, not all but some away. I'm not saying he can't win at this weight but he's not doing himself any good.

Still, I don't agree with you that Mosley didn't look impressive because of how he went about his game plan.

It was because the guy he fought was very akward, clinched a lot, and was taller.

The angles the guy was giving Shane made it very difficult to get around his arms to the body without getting countered, and the guy wasn't giving Shane the chance to lead with his jab with the way he thows his head forward with his punches.

I don't think there was anything else he could have done.

He saw right away pot shotting wasn't going to work, and he adjusted and started timing him very well.

I thought he did will considering the style of opponent he fought.

I had it 9 rounds to 1 for Shane.

[Foldem4me]

I think it's just a case of Mosley falling in love with his power (again). When I see the fight i'll make better assumptions but like everyone's saying he's not using his jab to set up his power punches. Hes been known to have a quick jab, I don't know why he's not using it.

I'd love to see him and Judah go at it. They have explosive tendencies in the ring and when they meet I think we'll see a fight of the year if they're both in their top form.

InThis, he just sits outside and sets up and sets up and sets up. It's gotten ridiculous. He has to consistently jab. It's painful to watch him completely ignore such important tools of the sport. He's just robbing himself.
You'll see exactly what I'm talking about and once you notice that about his style you'll be as perplexed about it as I am right now. It's a damn pity.

[- Evil -]

Mosley is half the fighter he once was, he should just retire now.

Its always the same thing with these fighters billed as "the next Sugar Ray", they seem really good in their prime because they have great handspeed but when they start to lose it you realise their skills were never anything special.

Mosley isnt that skillful, he has a good range of punches but they dont land clean, his footwork and defence are terrible.

IMO Mosley gets a beating by Margarito.

[InThisCorner]

I'd love to see him and Judah go at it. They have explosive tendencies in the ring and when they meet I think we'll see a fight of the year if they're both in their top form.

InThis, he just sits outside and sets up and sets up and sets up. It's gotten ridiculous. He has to consistently jab. It's painful to watch him completely ignore such important tools of the sport. He's just robbing himself.
You'll see exactly what I'm talking about and once you notice that about his style you'll be as perplexed about it as I am right now. It's a damn pity.

Hm...Yeah I'm definetly going to watch the fight and see what happens. Again, I think maybe he's fallen in love with his power.

I would love Mosley to expose Judah. Judah's nothing but a pretender. He pretends to be a good world-class fighter with all his belts, but he's nothing but a punch and a glass jaw.

I hope this fight would happen though. I would LOVE another title bout for Mosley.

[Exciterx30]

I think that Mosley could get Judah's belts but he should avoid Margarito. Mosley has better skills than Margarito but size matters in this case. Margarito is a machine that would be all over Mosley and the bad thing is that he would keep throwing 100 punches a round until the end.

[InThisCorner]

Mosley is half the fighter he once was, he should just retire now.

Its always the same thing with these fighters billed as "the next Sugar Ray", they seem really good in their prime because they have great handspeed but when they start to lose it you realise their skills were never anything special.

Mosley isnt that skillful, he has a good range of punches but they dont land clean, his footwork and defence are terrible.

IMO Mosley gets a beating by Margarito.

OK, I'm going to disagree with you on this one. Shane has awesome fundamentals. Sure his defence isn't great, but his chin is GRANITE, he will never get KO'd unless he continues fighting until hes 40. His footwork is good also.

Margarito doesn't have the boxing ability to beat Mosley. If they fought toe-to-toe Mosley would win because his power is much better then Margarito's and his chin like I said is world-class.

If you look at his previous losses, he has only lost to tall, strong fighters with quick, strong jabs. Margarito is nothing but an overated club fighter, maybe a little better.

[- Evil -]

OK, I'm going to disagree with you on this one. Shane has awesome fundamentals. Sure his defence isn't great, but his chin is GRANITE, he will never get KO'd unless he continues fighting until hes 40. His footwork is good also.

Margarito doesn't have the boxing ability to beat Mosley. If they fought toe-to-toe Mosley would win because his power is much better then Margarito's and his chin like I said is world-class.

If you look at his previous losses, he has only lost to tall, strong fighters with quick, strong jabs. Margarito is nothing but an overated club fighter, maybe a little better.

This is where we ALWAYS disagree.

OK, Margarito is a skillful fighter, he throws a good range of hard accurate punches and uses pressure well, forget Mosleys KO record(which is very impressive), i put that down to speed more than raw punching power. If the fight happens i have Margarito as the puncher out of the two.

Mosley has a good chin, your right, other than the beating he took early in the Forrest fight(which would hurt anyone) he has taken everything else well.

Mosley had a decent defence at one stage, it wasnt a skillful head movement defence but he was always fast enough to paw the shots away, but he cant do that anymore so his defence has got a lot worst recently.

His footwork is terrible, you only have to look at a fighter like Tszyu to see good slow footwork, Mosley looks too on edge when he moves, he looks like he's just squated a few hundred kilos a few too times and then tried to move, it doesnt flow now he's fighting at an average speed. But to be completly honest i dont think it was that good when he was super fast.

I think Mosley beat Forrest in the retmatch so with that in mind Mosley should have retired then, but i know money talks and he needed the 2nd De La Hoya fight, which should really have been his last fight. Now he's having problems with poor fighters.

[thealishuffle]

Sugar Shane vs Zab..yes hes got a chance

Sugar Shane vs Margarito..he would loose, ud 116-112

Sugar Shane vs Mayweather...not a chance in hell