Victor Ortiz or Andre Berto: Who has fought the better opposition?

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  • dans
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    Victor Ortiz or Andre Berto: Who has fought the better opposition?

    Ortiz has fought:
    Lamont Peterson
    Vivian Harris
    Marcos Maidana
    Nate Campbell
    Antonio Diaz
    Mike Arnaoutis

    Berto has fought:
    Carlos Quintana
    Juan Urango
    Luis Collazo
    Steve Forbes
    Mickey Rodriguez
    David Estrada

    I think it's close, which is surprising since Berto has been a champion for about 3 years.
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    Ortiz
    64.71%
    22
    Berto
    11.76%
    4
    Too close to call
    23.53%
    8

    The poll is expired.

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    #2
    Too close to call.

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    • KESSLER
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      #3
      I think Berto has.

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      • dans
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        #4
        Originally posted by wazaa.
        Too close to call.
        Yeah I think it depends on how you view the guys when they fought Ortiz or Berto. For instance, many think Quintana and Campbell were shot when they fought them.

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        • Emphasis
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          It's close but I give the edge to Berto, because of Collazo and Quintana. I don't think Ortiz gets past those fighters, and at the very least has to put up the fight of his life against them.

          With that said, I have have nothing against Ortiz and I hope he continues to do well. I believe Berto has faced the slightly better opposition though.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Emphasis
            It's close but I give the edge to Berto, because of Collazo and Quintana. I don't think Ortiz gets past those fighters, and at the very least has to put up the fight of his life against them.

            With that said, I have have nothing against Ortiz and I hope he continues to do well. I believe Berto has faced the slightly better opposition though.
            I think Ortiz could beat both

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            • Picazo
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              #7
              Originally posted by Emphasis
              It's close but I give the edge to Berto, because of Collazo and Quintana. I don't think Ortiz gets past those fighters, and at the very least has to put up the fight of his life against them.

              With that said, I have have nothing against Ortiz and I hope he continues to do well. I believe Berto has faced the slightly better opposition though.
              Ortiz stops both Collazo and Quintana.

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              • prinzemanspopa
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                #8
                The fact that Berto,a world title holder of almost three years,has a resume comparable to that of a guy who's yet to actually beat a noteworthy contender himself is pretty shocking.In fact,it's an embarrassment for this sport.



                Collazo is the only credible opponent that Berto has beaten in almost three years as a title holder.The Quintana that fought Berto clearly wasn't the same Quintana of old.The one that fought Berto no longer had any relevancy at that weight,and he had barely been active since he was taken out inside of one round by Paul Williams.So,yeah,Collazo remains the one and only legitimate contender that Berto has beaten in a professional career that has spanned over six years.



                Lou DiBella has absolutely no confidence in Berto.He knows that his boy is very limited in terms of talent,and that once a genuine contender with a punch finds that fragile glass jaw of his,glass will be shattered.

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                • Picazo
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by prinzemanspopa
                  The fact that Berto,a world title holder of almost three years,has a resume comparable to that of a guy who's yet to actually beat a noteworthy contender himself is pretty shocking.In fact,it's an embarrassment for this sport.



                  Collazo is the only credible opponent that Berto has beaten in almost three years as a title holder.The Quintana that fought Berto clearly wasn't the same Quintana of old.The one that fought Berto no longer had any relevancy at that weight,and he had barely been active since he was taken out inside of one round by Paul Williams.So,yeah,Collazo remains the one and only legitimate contender that Berto has beaten in a professional career that has spanned over six years.



                  Lou DiBella has absolutely no confidence in Berto.He knows that his boy is very limited in terms of talent,and that once a genuine contender with a punch finds that fragile glass jaw of his,glass will be shattered.
                  I gave Collazo the nod in his fight with Berto.

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                  • tito_bandito
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                    I think that Berto's controversy best win of collazo is similar to Ortiz' draw with Peterson which Ortiz looked more dominant than Berto did against Collazo. I think they faught similar opposition, but the fact that Berto is a world champ with that resume makes him look awful. I like Berto, but Cotto finished quintana in rd 5 and P.Will got it done in round 1. Shows you that Berto's power is slightly overrated as he's known for a deadly "upper cut" yet Alexander a 140 pounder was able to KO Urango with his own. Not to mention Ortiz dropped Maidana 3 times due to clear shots to the chin, so I give Ortiz the edge on power. Berto has speed and volume, but he leaves so many gaps open, and Ortiz will find them. That's why I got Ortiz KO'ing Berto in round 4. Berto was one of my favorite fighters to lol

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