Floyd Mayweather has never beaten an elite fighter in his prime

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  • boxinghead530
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    #181
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
    oh, the fights weren't feasible. convenient excuse.
    Well tell me this then. When Vic Darchinyan was undefeated and a knock out killer he and Gary Shaw
    used to call out Oscar to. Why didn't that fight happen? Did Oscar avoid him?

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    • therealpugilist
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      #182
      Originally posted by LarryXXX
      Castillo was an elite fighter at 135

      Corrales was elite at 130

      Hatton was elite

      Judah was elite

      Cotto was elite

      Canelo is elite

      All these guys were number one or lineal champion in their divisions.....The thread starter doesn't know what elite means

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      • big_james10
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        #183
        Originally posted by Freedom.
        Floyd Mayweather Jr won a split decision over a faded Oscar De La Hoya. He beat a much smaller, old Juan Manuel Marquez and an old Genaro Hernandez, and an age 38 Shane Mosley.

        His other opponents such as Baldomir and Hatton were good but not really elite fighters.

        Why didn't Floyd face Oscar or Shane when they were in their PRIME? Why didn't he fight Tszyu, Casamayor and Forrest some years ago?

        Floyd has never defeated an elite fighter in his prime.
        I find it amazing that haters like you can come on this site and discount everything that Mayweather has accomplished in his career, while in the same breath make excuses for nobodies like Golovkin.

        No matter who Floyd beat, haters like you would have an excuse. When guys that you worship, like GGG and Alvarez, move up five weight divisions, win titles in every one of those divisions and beat the best opponents in that division, then haters like you can come on this message board and talk s...t about Floyd. Until then, you should stay silent because you DKSAB.

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          #184
          Originally posted by therealpugilist
          All these guys were number one or lineal champion in their divisions.....The thread starter doesn't know what elite means
          The TS has a different definition of elite than someone who actually knows something about boxing. The TS thinks Willie Munroe Jr. and David Lemieux are elite fighters.

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            #185
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn
            So floyd "wasn't serious" yet paid (borrowed) $750k (from James Prince) to get out of his TR contract to get to ODH and Shane. Is that a move by someone not "serious"?

            How is asking a question being biased?

            I agree that Shane left alot in the ring when Vernon hit him with the uppercut but he wasn't done by any means. My point remains that Shane controlled fighting floyd earlier than he did. The toothache shouldn't have prevented the fight from happening.
            Floyd buyed out in 2006 not in 2000.


            What did shane mosley do when he wanted to fight oscar in 2000? first they were only 2 weightclasses apart(and Mosley was KO'ing everybody), he moved up 2 weightclasses, KO'ed 2 welterweights and got his fight.


            What did 130lb floyd do?move up to 135 in 2002, move up to 140 in 2004 move up to 147 in 2005....


            by 2006 Oscar had looked like **** at middleweight, retired and was coming back at 154 against a convenient opponent who would sell but would be there to be hit.

            Shane's career was recently resurgent at 154(by beating a name not a contender), he moved down, beat collazo(contender). and he got derailed by Cotto before Floyd anyway.Like i said two legit wins in 7-8 years before the floyd fight.
            Last edited by -Hyperion-; 09-08-2015, 02:19 PM.

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            • Larry the boss
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              #186
              Guy has gone thru 5 divisions and defeated the #1/lineal champion in everyone of them

              Defeated more world champions then anyone else in history

              Won the most world titles the anyone else in history(12)

              Tied with the most divisional lineal titles(4)


              And you make a ****** ass thread like this?

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              • The Big Dunn
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                #187
                Originally posted by boxinghead530
                Well tell me this then. When Vic Darchinyan was undefeated and a knock out killer he and Gary Shaw
                used to call out Oscar to. Why didn't that fight happen? Did Oscar avoid him?
                come on dude, really? I can see your point about Vic. But to put floyd in the same category is ridiculous.

                Floyd wasn't a nobody, but he wasn't a big household name. He was very much a huge risk for any big earner near his weight. I think this is why they chose not to fight him.

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                  #188
                  Originally posted by big_james10
                  I find it amazing that haters like you can come on this site and discount everything that Mayweather has accomplished in his career, while in the same breath make excuses for nobodies like Golovkin.

                  No matter who Floyd beat, haters like you would have an excuse. When guys that you worship, like GGG and Alvarez, move up five weight divisions, win titles in every one of those divisions and beat the best opponents in that division, then haters like you can come on this message board and talk s...t about Floyd. Until then, you should stay silent because you DKSAB.
                  It is odd. People bash floyds accomplishments while praise guys that beat on tomato cans. Can you imagine if Floyd fought 40 gabe rosados? Lol he'd have all kos easily

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                    #189
                    Originally posted by Devils Advocate
                    Vernon would have destroyed him. He was physically to big and that jab would have shut that shoulder roll shyt down.
                    Yes, sure! That jab would have shut down Mayweather the same way it shut down Ricardo Mayorga. In case you don't know who Mayorga is, he is the guy who knocked Forest out in the third round and left Forest with a deer-in-the-headlights look on his face. If it hadn't been for the knockout, that jab would have shut Mayorga down!

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                    • The Big Dunn
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                      #190
                      Originally posted by -Hyperion-
                      Floyd buyed out in 2006 not in 2000.


                      What did shane mosley do when he wanted to fight oscar in 2000? first they were only 2 weightclasses apart(and Mosley was KO'ing everybody), he moved up 2 weightclasses, KO'ed 2 welterweights and got his fight.


                      What did 130lb floyd do?move up to 135 in 2002, move up to 140 in 2004 move up to 147 in 2005....


                      by 2006 Oscar had looked like **** at middleweight, retired and was coming back at 154 against a convenient opponent who would sell but would be there to be hit.

                      Shane's career was recently resurgent at 154(by beating a name not a contender), he moved down, beat collazo(contender). and he got derailed by Cotto before Floyd anyway.Like i said two legit wins in 7-8 years before the floyd fight.
                      I am not going to dispute anything you posted . Shane wasn't done but he wasn't prime, fair. ODH was past it, fair. both ODH and shane controlled when they fought floyd, not the other way around. They could have fought him earlier.

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