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  • MikeRo1972
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    #31
    If you fight in an amateur event you will probably lose because your effective punches are hidden within your combos. Amatuer judges award points for effective hits tallying total shots, winner is who ever lands the most clean punches. In the open division you'll have some newb swing for the fences on EVERY punch, looking like he has 6 arms just flailing away. You will get penalized for "running" too. In the novice division you might be able to better showcase your skill set but still het penalized for "running".

    You literally have to learn to stay "in the box"...that is to say within hitting distance and learn to avoid getting hit by rolling, blocking, head movement, and weaving from the hips in order to impress and amatuer judge. That's why amateurs either swing like windmills on steroids or are robotic in their style. Punch patterns are usually: 1.....1.....1-2......1-2....1......1-3-1-2....almost always starting with a jan and ending witha cross as to make it easy for a judge to see. Pros usually faint....Cotto and Bute for example faint (or fake) a jab then immediately go to a body hook or body uppercut. Mayweather and Dawson will fake a jab altogether try and get their opponent to counter the faint and come back with a power cross. Sergio puts his hands down and dares you to come at him and throws the lead overhand right. They don't care How it looks so long as it gets the job done. On the other hand...P-Will, the K-Bros, Dzinzurik, Kotelnick, Khan, Kessler....these guys are more amatuer/textbook/Euro. Not a bad thing at all, just safer way and sometimes more efficient way of fighting. Unless you have tremendous speed and instincts it is recommended you stick to textbook. Boring but gets the job done.
    Last edited by MikeRo1972; 04-06-2011, 09:05 PM.

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    • Larry the boss
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      #32
      Originally posted by MikeRo1972
      If you fight in an amateur event you will probably lose because your effective punches are hidden within your combos. Amatuer judges award points for effective hits tallying total shots, winner is who ever lands the most clean punches. In the open division you'll have some newb swing for the fences on EVERY punch, looking like he has 6 arms just flailing away. You will get penalized for "running" too. In the novice division you might be able to better showcase your skill set but still het penalized for "running".

      You literally have to learn to stay "in the box"...that is to say within hitting distance and learn to avoid getting hit by rolling, blocking, head movement, and weaving from the hips in order to impress and amatuer judge. That's why amateurs either swing like windmills on steroids or are robotic in their style. Punch patterns are usually: 1.....1.....1-2......1-2....1......1-3-1-2....almost always starting with a jan and ending witha cross as to make it easy for a judge to see. Pros usually faint....Cotto and Bute for example faint (or fake) a jab then immediately go to a body hook or body uppercut. Mayweather and Dawson will fake a jab altogether try and get their opponent to counter the faint and come back with a power cross. Sergio puts his hands down and dares you to come at him and throws the lead overhand right. They don't care How it looks sibling as it gets the job done. On the other hand...P-Will, the K-Bros, Dzinzurik, Kotelnick, Khan, Kessler....these guys are more amatuer/textbook/Euro. Not a bad thing at all, just safer way and sometimes more efficient way of fighting. Unless you have tremendous speed and instincts it is recommended you stick to textbook. Boring but gets the job done.
      yep......................

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        #33
        calzaghe shouldve been the best ametuer of alltime

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        • JM1
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          #34
          Originally posted by MikeRo1972
          If you fight in an amateur event you will probably lose because your effective punches are hidden within your combos. Amatuer judges award points for effective hits tallying total shots, winner is who ever lands the most clean punches. In the open division you'll have some newb swing for the fences on EVERY punch, looking like he has 6 arms just flailing away. You will get penalized for "running" too. In the novice division you might be able to better showcase your skill set but still het penalized for "running".

          You literally have to learn to stay "in the box"...that is to say within hitting distance and learn to avoid getting hit by rolling, blocking, head movement, and weaving from the hips in order to impress and amatuer judge. That's why amateurs either swing like windmills on steroids or are robotic in their style. Punch patterns are usually: 1.....1.....1-2......1-2....1......1-3-1-2....almost always starting with a jan and ending witha cross as to make it easy for a judge to see. Pros usually faint....Cotto and Bute for example faint (or fake) a jab then immediately go to a body hook or body uppercut. Mayweather and Dawson will fake a jab altogether try and get their opponent to counter the faint and come back with a power cross. Sergio puts his hands down and dares you to come at him and throws the lead overhand right. They don't care How it looks sibling as it gets the job done. On the other hand...P-Will, the K-Bros, Dzinzurik, Kotelnick, Khan, Kessler....these guys are more amatuer/textbook/Euro. Not a bad thing at all, just safer way and sometimes more efficient way of fighting. Unless you have tremendous speed and instincts it is recommended you stick to textbook. Boring but gets the job done.
          thats what exactly happened in my last fight my opponent fought ugly as hell and was throwing out of this world punches. i have an upcoming fight on may28

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          • MikeRo1972
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            #35
            Originally posted by JM..
            thats what exactly happened in my last fight my opponent fought ugly as hell and was throwing out of this world punches. i have an upcoming fight on may28
            Against those guys you want to stand your ground in the middle of the ring (never the ropes). Plant your back foot, weave from the hips and step into him with your hips and shoulders so he cant land cleanly on your head or torso. Try and figure out the number of punches he throws before he stops to catch his breath. I guarantee he will rinse and repeat, once you figure the number of punches he throws at a time counter to the body. Nothing like a clean shot to the body when your winded. That'll stop the over aggression.

            Its hard really because the amateurs is nothing more than a beauty contest. Learn the ropes with the novice scene and then fight at the club level..your skills are condusive to more success at the club level than the amateur ranks.

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            • King Ju-Ju
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              #36
              what weight are u trying to fight at????

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              • JM1
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                #37
                Originally posted by MikeRo1972
                Against those guys you want to stand your ground in the middle of the ring (never the ropes). Plant your back foot, weave from the hips and step into him with your hips and shoulders so he cant land cleanly on your head or torso. Try and figure out the number of punches he throws before he stops to catch his breath. I guarantee he will rinse and repeat, once you figure the number of punches he throws at a time counter to the body. Nothing like a clean shot to the body when your winded. That'll stop the over aggression.

                Its hard really because the amateurs is nothing more than a beauty contest. Learn the ropes with the novice scene and then fight at the club level..your skills are condusive to more success at the club level than the amateur ranks.
                really.. ive thought about that myself in the past and now it makes perfect sense to me now. good thing i posted my video here and was able to talk with very knowledgable posters

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                • JM1
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by BoxeoBoriqua
                  what weight are u trying to fight at????
                  i walk around a 150 the last time i fought was at 140. im actually hoping to go down to 130-135

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                  • V.WEBB
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                    #39
                    The first thing I noticed is how your hands drop as you move away, be careful with that. A good sparring partner (or fighter if you have fights) can pick up on that and time you as you pull away with your hands low.

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                    • JM1
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by VWEBBJR
                      The first thing I noticed is how your hands drop as you move away, be careful with that. A good sparring partner (or fighter if you have fights) can pick up on that and time you as you pull away with your hands low.
                      i sometimes get too comfortable in the ring so i tend to put my hands down when backingup. ill keep your observation in mind thanks

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