Give an example of each only dealing with active welterweight boxers.

[studentofthegam]

Paulie is fighting in 3 days against Cotto's brother Jose Miguel, and judging by the fact that it doesn't sound like you knew that I'd say he's not receiving much hype.

And if you're going to pick on guys who've moved up to welterweight recently, I think Victor Ortiz is probably more deserving of the "hype job" label considering he had a tremendous amount of hype from Golden Boy and HBO, then publicly thought about quitting the sport the 1st time someone hit him back. But he'll get his chance to reverse that soon.

If Paulie wins definitively watch. He'll become a a "factor" at WW. At WW Ortiz is hype but he has a chance to become a true contender hell a champion for that matter.

[DTanc]

How is Ortiz a hype job when this is going to be his first fight at WW? Really?

I didn't think it mattered how many fights they've had at Welter, as long as they're campaigning at welter now. And neither did you, you used Jose Cotto as your journeyman and he's a career lightweight.

So yes, really.

[Chuckguy]

I didn't think it mattered how many fights they've had at Welter, as long as they're campaigning at welter now. And neither did you, you used Jose Cotto as your journeyman and he's a career lightweight.

So yes, really.

I thought he was a light weight
but in any weight he is a journeyman

[Chuckguy]

I didn't think it mattered how many fights they've had at Welter, as long as they're campaigning at welter now. And neither did you, you used Jose Cotto as your journeyman and he's a career lightweight.

So yes, really.

to me hype is done by the general public
its the job of the promoters and trainers to hype their fighters.
I havent heard any hype about victor

[Eastbay Giant]

1 A great fighter:
2 A good fighter:
3 A journeyman:
4 A prospect:
5 A Bum:
6 A hype job:
Try to be serious because I know that bum category will get out of hand. I know it has to be atleast one of each in every weightclass.

Here you go homie, feel free to object if you see fit.

1 A great fighter: Mayweather
2 A good fighter: Cotto
3 A journeyman: David Estrada
4 A prospect: Mike Jones/ Jessie Vargas
5 A Bum: n/a
6 A hype job: Joshua Clottey

[studentofthegam]

I didn't think it mattered how many fights they've had at Welter, as long as they're campaigning at welter now. And neither did you, you used Jose Cotto as your journeyman and he's a career lightweight.

So yes, really.

Ortiz is a hype because he magically appeared on the top WW list without any fights in my book.

Here you go homie, feel free to object if you see fit.

1 A great fighter: Mayweather
2 A good fighter: Cotto
3 A journeyman: David Estrada
4 A prospect: Mike Jones/ Jessie Vargas
5 A Bum: n/a
6 A hype job: Joshua Clottey

I cant see Clottey as a hype but a journeyman.

[Eastbay Giant]

Ortiz is a hype because he magically appeared on the top WW list without any fights in my book.

I cant see Clottey as a hype but a journeyman.

I chose Estrada because he was not quite a gatekeeper and less of a contender than Clottey. Clottey never seals the deal, that's why I put him in the hype category.

[DTanc]

to me hype is done by the general public
its the job of the promoters and trainers to hype their fighters.
I havent heard any hype about victor

Fair enough.

I think it's a combo of the promoter/network and the public. The promoter/network doesn't spend the money to make those little hype pieces, like the one with Victor's dad, until they have a little buy-in from the public.

Generally I think of hype as anyone who is talked about as the next big thing without actually beating a top tier fighter.

And I do agree it is the promoter's job to hype, but if they wanna get the most **** for their buck they'll hype the fighter who can actually back it up. Thus far I just don't think Victor has. But I'm not writing him off.

[Chuckguy]

Fair enough.

I think it's a combo of the promoter/network and the public. The promoter/network doesn't spend the money to make those little hype pieces, like the one with Victor's dad, until they have a little buy-in from the public.

Generally I think of hype as anyone who is talked about as the next big thing without actually beating a top tier fighter.

And I do agree it is the promoter's job to hype, but if they wanna get the most **** for their buck they'll hype the fighter who can actually back it up. Thus far I just don't think Victor has. But I'm not writing him off.

I think Berto is more hype than Ortiz. He has been champ for a minute and has yet to beat a top 10 WW if Im not mistaken. But I see your point on Victor.

[jtiger777]

Fascinating.

Or perhaps he's a whaler or studies groups of whales.

gam
noun
Definition of GAM

1. a visit or friendly conversation at sea or ashore especially between whalers

2. a school of whales

donair looks huge vs that guy in ur sig