Comments Thread For: Marquez Eyes Judah, But Won't Rule Out Manny Pacquiao

[hitking]

Yeah he should fight Pacquiao last before he retires definitely. Chances are against him(JMM) either way it's history for both.

I think people are really sleeping on JMM in a third fight with Pac. Certain fighters just give certain fighters trouble, and JMM is that guy for Pac. And IMO, people are writing him off simply because Pac has been able to suceed at higher weights. But think back to Pacquaio-Marquez II and tell who has Pac fought since that's in JMM's league? I'd say no one. And in the end, Pac's speed, not his power, is his greatest asset. And a lightweight won't be as overwhelmed by his speed as welterweights. Pac was beaten and had much closer fights in the lower divisions becuase the smaller guys were totally outdone by his speed. I think JMM will give him a helluva fight.

[DocG]

Jmm v.s zab will be foty make it happen it will sell great match up a toss up fight I like both fighters two fast fighters both with power winner fights madaina

DAMN! I don't know where you learn to write a sentence, but use a punctuation mark!

[SluggerFan]

I also believe the fight between JMM vs. Judah makes alot of sense. It's no gimme fight for JMM since Judah has fought at 147 lbs and for the most part, Judah held his own there. Judah is fast and hits hard and JMM has skills, veteran experience and savy to make this a pretty even fight. It's just too bad that JMM isn't big enough like Floyd Jr to do one off fights, where he can pick and choose his promoter, opponent, etc for each fight. If he signs with GBP, he will be stuck with them for 4 fights, which is virtually the rest of his career. And with the cold war between Arum and GBP, he may never get the third Pacquiao fight...

Personally, I think JMM is waiting to see what happens with Guerrero vs. Katsidis and Pac vs Mosley before he will make a decision. GBP may try to shove Guerrero down JMMs throat first (if Guerrero beats Katsidis) and JMM doesn't even care about that fight since it does nothing for his legacy. I would love to see JMM take on Judah, then Maidana, then the winner of Bradley vs. Khan. That would be the way to go for JMM, the future hall of famer, who never ducked anyone (except maybe Nasim Hamed, whom he would have kicked the crap out of like Barrera did)...

[DocG]

I think people are really sleeping on JMM in a third fight with Pac. Certain fighters just give certain fighters trouble, and JMM is that guy for Pac. And IMO, people are writing him off simply because Pac has been able to suceed at higher weights. But think back to Pacquaio-Marquez II and tell who has Pac fought since that's in JMM's league? I'd say no one. And in the end, Pac's speed, not his power, is his greatest asset. And a lightweight won't be as overwhelmed by his speed as welterweights. Pac was beaten and had much closer fights in the lower divisions becuase the smaller guys were totally outdone by his speed. I think JMM will give him a helluva fight.

Look up at the feedback page and that is the face of a dehydrated Pacman with prominent cheekbones and sunken eyeballs at 130lbs when he fought Crybaby Marquez.....and yet he knockdowned JMM and won a close decision.

Do you still think Crybaby Marquez has a chance with Pacman at 147 lbs??? Pacman's skill level is way different 3 years ago as a one dimensional fighter. He's faster with more angles and power in both fist! Do you still think Crybaby marquez could cope up with the present pacman???

[hitking]

Look up at the feedback page and that is the face of a dehydrated Pacman with prominent cheekbones and sunken eyeballs at 130lbs when he fought Crybaby Marquez.....and yet he knockdowned JMM and won a close decision.

Do you still think Crybaby Marquez has a chance with Pacman at 147 lbs??? Pacman's skill level is way different 3 years ago as a one dimensional fighter. He's faster with more angles and power in both fist! Do you still think Crybaby marquez could cope up with the present pacman???

How is Pac's skill level different? Hell, go back and check the tape. Freddie Roach claimed this great "transformation" from Pac being a one dimensional fighter happen after he lost his first fight with a washed up Morales. Pac just hasn't been up against any resistance and been fighting lesser fighters. Hell, IMO he's even lost a step because there no reason for him to be as hittable as he's been against guys who he's 10x faster than. As for him being faster, I don't see it. I don't think he's lost any speed, which is what makes him great. But he appears to be faster because he's fighting against slower guys than he did at the lower weights. And naturally yes, he's probably hitting harder as a bigger guy, I'll conceed that. I don't think I ever said once that I think JMM would beat him. I just don't think he'll be blown out like your kind seems to believe. I think the fight would resemble Pacquaio-Morales II.

[DocG]

How is Pac's skill level different? Hell, go back and check the tape. Freddie Roach claimed this great "transformation" from Pac being a one dimensional fighter happen after he lost his first fight with a washed up Morales. Pac just hasn't been up against any resistance and been fighting lesser fighters. Hell, IMO he's even lost a step because there no reason for him to be as hittable as he's been against guys who he's 10x faster than. As for him being faster, I don't see it. I don't think he's lost any speed, which is what makes him great. But he appears to be faster because he's fighting against slower guys than he did at the lower weights. And naturally yes, he's probably hitting harder as a bigger guy, I'll conceed that. I don't think I ever said once that I think JMM would beat him. I just don't think he'll be blown out like your kind seems to believe. I think the fight would resemble Pacquaio-Morales II.

Pacman still lacks power in his right hand during the 2nd fight. Then he started to develop it thereafter and now with better speed and angles...

If you assume he is hittable...it's because he allows himself to get hit like in the Clottey fight just for Clottey to open up and do his counters. And he also knows he could take the punches of his opponent then fire back more. Aside from speed, angles, and power...note also his chin....it's granite!

[Illdil]

I think people are really sleeping on JMM in a third fight with Pac. Certain fighters just give certain fighters trouble, and JMM is that guy for Pac. And IMO, people are writing him off simply because Pac has been able to suceed at higher weights. But think back to Pacquaio-Marquez II and tell who has Pac fought since that's in JMM's league? I'd say no one. And in the end, Pac's speed, not his power, is his greatest asset. And a lightweight won't be as overwhelmed by his speed as welterweights. Pac was beaten and had much closer fights in the lower divisions becuase the smaller guys were totally outdone by his speed. I think JMM will give him a helluva fight.

This is some BS why r u guys putting JMM in such a high pedestal anyways hes career defining moments r with manny and manny at this point straight blasts Juan anything over 140 and above the guy isnt a face first brawler now he doesnt fight the same way he used to Juan being the HOF he is very good boxer but give me a break man u think he can hang with Khan and bradley and Judah is very very fast has punching power and juan is very slow and no reflexes at the higher weights u know that ...and why r u desecrating manny's fight with hatton/cotto/clottey/toney u put juan against one of those guys the guy is in for the worst beating of hes life u kidding me..i think JMM v hatton would b a good fight but i see even hatton being a very strong at 140 dude think before u talk

[Rome-By-Ko]

You gotdamn right Rome my homie. It makes perfect sense right now. Aint nobody at LW ****in with JMM. He is king of the division there. Coming up to 140 doesn't seem like it will be much of a problem for him at all. And Judah is lookin rejuvinated, as well as more savy in the ring(Thanks to Sweet Pea),there were some things that Zab did in his last fight that made you say "Damn if that dont look like Pernell!!!!" Two cagey vets in the ring with a title on the line should strike at the heartstrings of every true Boxing fan IMHO.

I agree,Sweet Pea seems to have Judahs ear like his father never could get(I believe Judah respects Sweet pea a lot and you know how us man are with are fathers)this makes Judah very dangerous imo..A focus Judah=a dangerous Judah..JMM is what he is always dangerous always smart..This has my blood pumping tbh and weather on PPV or HBO I will be watching this one..If its on the east coast I might have to go to it..

I don't think I've ever seen a wack Judah fight,there's always some drama I expect the same thing from this fight..

[Illdil]

Pacman still lacks power in his right hand during the 2nd fight. Then he started to develop it thereafter and now with better speed and angles...

If you assume he is hittable...it's because he allows himself to get hit like in the Clottey fight just for Clottey to open up and do his counters. And he also knows he could take the punches of his opponent then fire back more. Aside from speed, angles, and power...note also his chin....it's granite!

This is exactly what these people dont get the guy is a totally different fighter than he used to b at FW and LW he can box/slug/brawl/fight going forward & backwards and he angles alot blind spot u alot great counter puncher and defecively is much more sound and uses hes legs alot in these higher weights cuz hes footwork is very very good u combine that with halacious speed... and manny hits very hard its not even funny for hes size the guy is a well rounded fighter now

[Illdil]

I agree,Sweet Pea seems to have Judahs ear like his father never could get(I believe Judah respects Sweet pea a lot and you know how us man are with are fathers)this makes Judah very dangerous imo..A focus Judah=a dangerous Judah..JMM is what he is always dangerous always smart..This has my blood pumping tbh and weather on PPV or HBO I will be watching this one..If its on the east coast I might have to go to it..

I don't think I've ever seen a wack Judah fight,there's always some drama I expect the same thing from this fight..

exactly judah in the mabuza fight was like u know who in there the guy literally looked like sweet pea cuz he has focused much on defence cuz the guy was a very slick fighter to begin with i think this judah wil give anyone a tough fight in the 140's and JMM can box great but at JWW common man the guy is too slow for these guy and hes punching power is decent compared to Judah who hits pretty damn hard still hes a natural puncher.