Which one is more difficult to accomplish to be a multiple or unified division champ?

[Bring It On]

Unifying is much much harder. Manny has proven that you can beat guys off losses at catchweights and become muti-division champ. To unify you actually have to beat good ranked fighters.

Flyweight - Sasakul, 13 straight wins before facing Manny
Super Bantam - Ledwaba, 23 straight wins before facing Manny
Super Feather - Marquez, 4 straight wins before facing Manny
Lightweight - Diaz, 5 straight wins before facing Manny
Light welter - Hatton, 2 straight wins before facing Manny
Welter - Cotto, 2 straight wins before facing Manny

The average for Manny's top5(no catch weights): 9,4 straight wins


Let's do the same for the GOAT, Floyd:

Super feather - Hernandez, 6 straight wins before facing Floyd
Lightweight - Castillo, 4 straight wins before facing Floyd
Light welter - Gatti, 5 straight wins before facing Floyd
Welter - Judah, 0 wins before facing Floyd
Light Middle - DLH, 1 win before facing Floyd

The average for Floyd's top5: 3,2 straight wins


Now THAT'S a fighter winning belts from fighters who were on long winning streaks! Unlike that hypejob Manny!

[jrosales13]

Flyweight - Sasakul, 13 straight wins before facing Manny
Super Bantam - Ledwaba, 23 straight wins before facing Manny
Super Feather - Marquez, 4 straight wins before facing Manny
Lightweight - Diaz, 5 straight wins before facing Manny
Light welter - Hatton, 2 straight wins before facing Manny
Welter - Cotto, 2 straight wins before facing Manny

The average for Manny's top5(no catch weights): 9,4 straight wins


Let's do the same for the GOAT, Floyd:

Super feather - Hernandez, 6 straight wins before facing Floyd
Lightweight - Castillo, 4 straight wins before facing Floyd
Light welter - Gatti, 5 straight wins before facing Floyd
Welter - Judah, 0 wins before facing Floyd
Light Middle - DLH, 1 win before facing Floyd

The average for Floyd's top5: 3,2 straight wins


Now THAT'S a fighter winning belts from fighters who were on long winning streaks! Unlike that hypejob Manny!

No Barrera? I would actually put Barrera in, and take Cotto out. Since one Barrera is Pac greatest win. Two Cotto was at a catch-weight while Barrera was at the limit. And, three Barrera was for the lineal title while Cotto was for a paper title.

[Bring It On]

No Barrera? I would actually put Barrera in, and take Cotto out. Since one Barrera is Pac greatest win. Two Cotto was at a catch-weight while Barrera was at the limit. And, three Barrera was for the lineal title while Cotto was for a paper title.

He didn't have a belt in their first meeting according to Boxrec, I guessed that he would complain about that if I included him...

[jrosales13]

He didn't have a belt in their first meeting according to Boxrec, I guessed that he would complain about that if I included him...

Barrera was the lineal and ring champion. He was the real featherweight champion. More so than Ledwaba, Diaz, or Cotto.

Plus the reason why he didn't have one of them bogus sanctioned belts.

Is because he wanted to unify against the IBF title holder Johnny Tapia. However, neither the WBC nor the IBF allowed them to unify. Since both went on with the fight. The WBC stripped Barrera and the IBF stripped Tapia. In reality when Pac fought Barrera, Barrera should have had the WBC and IBF strap.

That's why putting emphasis on the sanctioning bodies titles is kind of dumb.

[Russian Crushin]

He didn't have a belt in their first meeting according to Boxrec, I guessed that he would complain about that if I included him...

I think he had his belt taken away right before the fight, making him a title -less lineal champ

[Bring It On]

Barrera was the lineal and ring champion. He was the real featherweight champion. More so than Ledwaba, Diaz, or Cotto.

Plus the reason why he didn't have one of them bogus sanctioned belts.

Is because he wanted to unify against the IBF title holder Johnny Tapia. However, neither the WBC nor the IBF allowed them to unify. Since both went on with the fight. The WBC stripped Barrera and the IBF stripped Tapia. In reality when Pac fought Barrera, Barrera should have had the WBC and IBF strap.

That's why putting emphasis on the sanctioning bodies titles is kind of dumb.

I agree with you, but it doesn't really matter. I wanted to prove a point, and it didn't really matter if I used Barrera or not. Like I said, I chose not to because he didn't have an official belt. If I would have included him, Manny's average would have been even higher.

I think he had his belt taken away right before the fight, making him a title -less lineal champ

Yup. He beat Morales for the WBC belt 3 fights before the first Manny fight, then fought Tapia like jrosales13 said.

[gapo]

You guys just killed this thread. Mayweather never have a chance to go up against 3 great mexican musketeers. Coward fighters will never want to go thru that path if they can avoid it.

[jrosales13]

Ugh...

Some of you guys are F'ing pathetic. Why the hell are you guys trying to make this into a Pac vs Floyd thread...F'ing ey...

Stop nuthuggin/hating on a particular fighter. Start being a fan of the sport for once.

This whole thing where you trying to **** on either Floyd or Pac is getting F'ing old. It's so immature, there's no need for that. Especially since a win over either other will be the best win of that particular fighter career. So is actually quite ****** to hate on either fighter.

What's wrong with some of you guys? How old are you guys?

I can't wait till both of the guys finally retire for good. So their dumbass Johnnie Comelately fans can GTFOH.

[Bring It On]

I could have chosen some other fighter, but it's not like there are plenty 5(+) division champs to chose from, is it!?

And I don't hate Floyd, but It gets to me when so many claim that Manny only fights bums coming off losses at catchweights. This was a way of proving them wrong, or whatever you wanna call it.

I'm not saying that Manny fought the absolute best in every single fight - no one does - but he fought many, many great fighters.

[miron_lang]

Barrera was the lineal and ring champion. He was the real featherweight champion. More so than Ledwaba, Diaz, or Cotto.

Plus the reason why he didn't have one of them bogus sanctioned belts.

Is because he wanted to unify against the IBF title holder Johnny Tapia. However, neither the WBC nor the IBF allowed them to unify. Since both went on with the fight. The WBC stripped Barrera and the IBF stripped Tapia. In reality when Pac fought Barrera, Barrera should have had the WBC and IBF strap.

That's why putting emphasis on the sanctioning bodies titles is kind of dumb.

Pre

as i remember it. Barrera immediately dumps the WBC belt after beating Morales in fight II and then he fought Tapia. but regardless he should have had the green before the Pac fight.



or did i miss something?